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Re: Your selected charity received a $667.68 donation from Amazo

crbutler wrote:Given what we hear about big tech… does the gun group actually get this, or is it claimed and either not delivered or delayed?


We get it - it comes directly via electronic payment into the bank!

Step by step instructions available here: https://www.gunowners.mn/smile

Thanks!
Bryan
by bstrawse
on Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:24 pm
 
Forum: General Gun Chat
Topic: Your selected charity received a $667.68 donation from Amazo
Replies: 11
Views: 393

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

It's unfortunate but the decision had some valid legal points: that injunctions usually are to uphold the status quo rather than overturn it; and after years of the Fair banning carry it's difficult to argue that permit holders would suddenly suffer "irreparable harm" now if the injunctio...
by bstrawse
on Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:07 am
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

It's unfortunate but the decision had some valid legal points: that injunctions usually are to uphold the status quo rather than overturn it; and after years of the Fair banning carry it's difficult to argue that permit holders would suddenly suffer "irreparable harm" now if the injunctio...
by bstrawse
on Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:16 pm
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

Here's our statement on the Judge's ruling today. https://www.facebook.com/gunownersmn/posts/1911071205729028 Judge Nelson today issued an order denying our request for a temporary injunction against the MN State Agricultural Society, Ramsey County, and the Ramsey County Sheriff. We're obviously dis...
by bstrawse
on Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:23 pm
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

We're conferring with counsel and will have a statement soon.

This is just the first move, there will be many more to come.
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by bstrawse
on Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:50 pm
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: No Vax No Guns - new angle?

I think that's an absolutely nutty theory. I know Juliette personally and have for over a decade, she was one of my instructors in a program I was in 2011 - 2012. He's attributing an awful lots of things here that make no sense. She's also an academic and not in any position of power -- and Emmanuel...
by bstrawse
on Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:44 pm
 
Forum: In The News
Topic: No Vax No Guns - new angle?
Replies: 5
Views: 226

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

Holland&Holland wrote:Do we know the judge in this case is a democrat?


She is a Dayton appointee but has a strong reputation and has ruled against the government in several civil rights cases.
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by bstrawse
on Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:40 pm
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

Bearcatrp wrote:With democrat judges, don't expect a ruling for the 2nd amendment. The democrats just don't give a rats arse what laws or constitution they break.


Our claim was on statutory grounds primarily, but we did cite 2A generally.

The issue at law here was violation of MN's preemption statutes.
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by bstrawse
on Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:39 pm
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

BigBlue wrote:Any updates on the hearing yesterday?


The hearing was last week - see my lengthier update above.

We're still waiting on the judges ruling.
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by bstrawse
on Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:55 pm
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

I don't understand how you can lose. I mean their argument is that they should not have to follow the law because they don't want to. I tried that once and still got a ticket for speeding. Their argument was also that the legislature didn't intend for the law to apply to the state ag society - and ...
by bstrawse
on Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:49 am
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

Wonder what the odds are on getting the injunction granted? I think the long game is a win but I'm not all that optimistic about the judge granting the injunction and telling the fair to get bent over this year's fair. And of course the true long game is a little sketch as you know that they're jus...
by bstrawse
on Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:48 am
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

I don't understand how you can lose. I mean their argument is that they should not have to follow the law because they don't want to. I tried that once and still got a ticket for speeding. It will all boil down to if the fair is deemed to be a public or governmental entity. The fair did not argue t...
by bstrawse
on Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:46 am
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

Interesting call... not sure what to make of it. I guess we'll soon find out when judge decides. It's always hard to tell from a judge's questions and comments how she will rule. So we wait. This is just the first step - and we'll have a much longer hearing/trial on the merits down the road. And ev...
by bstrawse
on Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:07 pm
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

Caucus/Rev. Tim Christopher/Cade-Hauptman Arguments: ⋅ The fair is preempted by multiple state statutes from banning lawful, permitted carry ⋅ People have been carrying lawfully at the fair for decades ⋅ The metal detectors and joint powers agreement have forced our ha...
by bstrawse
on Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:03 pm
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167

Re: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair

The responses from Ramsey County, the Ramsey County Sheriff, and the State Agricultural Society are now posted on our website at http://gunowners.mn/statefair Our hearing is today at 1:30PM on our motion for a temporary injunction. We expect a decision within a few days. You can listen in starting a...
by bstrawse
on Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:28 am
 
Forum: Politics
Topic: MN Gun Owners Caucus files suit against the State Fair
Replies: 46
Views: 2167
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