I have one in .223, .30-30, .45-70, and .30-06. The .223 and .30-30 are fun. The .45-70 is a handful, but manageable. I can shoot 20 rounds in a range session with it. I shot the .30-06 2 times (read rounds), and until I put a muzzle break on it, will not again...and that was 6 years ago. The torque...