No, I'm talking about Congressional and State oversight. I'm wondering why you think they don't have any. The DHS sanctioned fusion centers (like MNJAC here in Minnesota) have to follow DHS policies - which have Congressional oversight through various Congressional Committees. They're also subject ...

I don't see the issues that you are talking about. No oversight? They have oversight at both a state and federal level. What are you talking about? b[/quote] They do? Thats news to me. Or perhaps you are referring to the "Oversight board" which is nothing more than people from the groups ...

I guess once they define "reasonable restrictions" to mean "carrying a gun is reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed" then you would be correct. I have a feeling it will be a cold day in hell before that happens due to the implications such a ruling would have thro...

There is a general prohibition on driving a car if you are not licensed, or under a certain age is there not? No, there is not. Driving a car is a legal activity unless... Carrying a firearm in public is an illegal activity unless... Not having a drivers license and driving is a crime. Having a car...

It's not a presumption of guilt, its a suspicion of a crime. There is a big difference, and yes it has and does stand up in court, as recently as June of this year. Seems to me someone that can afford a lot of justice could very easily win a case where the 2nd ammendment is suspicion of a crime. Se...

jshuberg wrote:There is not a general prohibition against driving a car in MN. There is a general prohibition against carrying a firearm in MN.

There is a general prohibition on driving a car if you are not licensed, or under a certain age is there not?

This is not really much of an issue if you conceal. If you open carry you should be aware that you may be approached by police. They may frisk you. They will demand you produce your permit and government issued ID. They may require you to sign your name in their presence. They may ask you to submit...

I understand what you are trying to say, but the Constitution of the United States of America > MN Constitution. Correct, and if the US Supreme Court ever finds that carrying a firearm outside the home is a protected fundamental right (which I hope they will), then many state laws, including her...

What the MN Constitution does or does not mention is irrelevant when it comes to the right to bear arms. I understand what you are trying to say, but the Constitution of the United States of America > MN Constitution. I guess we're back to those pesky "reasonable restrictions" allowed ...

I will have to find another way to educate folks about guns.... maybe stick drawings. Perhaps you didn't know the State of MN does NOT mention the right to bear arms in its Constitution. It also seems to me that police officers and security guards a poor audience for your gun rights education class...

The "Right To Carry" in MN isn't a right, nor a privelage like driving, but rather it is a crime to carry. Good case to conceal. Its a crime to carry a gun in Minnesota, unless you have a permit. Currently, just over 100,000 people have permits, leaving the majority of people without perm...

It's not a presumption of guilt, its a suspicion of a crime. There is a big difference, and yes it has and does stand up in court, as recently as June of this year. Seems to me someone that can afford a lot of justice could very easily win a case where the 2nd ammendment is suspicion of a crime. Se...

It's not a presumption of guilt, its a suspicion of a crime. There is a big difference, and yes it has and does stand up in court, as recently as June of this year. Seems to me someone that can afford a lot of justice could very easily win a case where the 2nd ammendment is suspicion of a crime. Se...

It would be more like this Judge: "Why did you stop this gentleman?" Officer - "When responding to a man with a gun call at the XXXXXX mall, I observed an individual open carrying a firearm. I then approached him and asked for him to give me his permit to carry and government ID as a...

I was under the opposite impression. What case law are you referring to? Perhaps you should first read a thread before commenting on it: http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=32661&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=105#p377861 Thanks for posting that again, no need to be a dick and t...