Another application for our 585 HE is for guys with the 14.5mm PTRDs, to use our case with chamber insert. In many places 14.5 cases are scarce, real expensive, as well as most 14.5mm cases being steel are not the easiest to resize/reload. Our case sizes like regular cases and can be easily reloaded...

Here is a different look at 585-458 sabots holding 458cal bullets. It holds lead as well as jacketed. http://www.gunownerstv.com/458-585f.jpg Here is a long turned streamlined bullet in our 585. http://www.gunownerstv.com/barlong.jpg I do like Enfields to put our 585 ...

Here is picture of 585HE 100 cases a guy got loaded loaded, They are CEB solid nose bullets, and hollowpoints. This bullet is turned solid with wide meplat or wide hollowpoint. . http://www.gunownerstv.com/100ceb.jpg Here is break action being set up for the 24ga FH. It is done by mo...

I'm working on a site that I will get changed to cover this project in a few months. I post this and the 12ga From Hell research, much of it others work, on a hundred forums for information and it is our hobby. Some threads been going for many years. No money to be made just many thousands in debt. ...

Here is 585 FBW falling block with Hogue Knoxx Compstock. That stock helps reduce recoil in this lighter gun. Ed http://www.gunownerstv.com/fbwknoxx.jpg Here is some of the barrels from McGowen, with other barrels. Most of the McGowens profiled and few are straight blanks. Others fro...

In the process of checking out all bullets/slugs in 585 size caliber, it lead to the idea of the little brother of our 585HE, a 24ga FH. Very suitable for shotgun only deer areas, with a very effective load. And a huge supply and variet of bullets and slugs. Same rifled bore as our 585HE, same barre...

First AUS buffalo killed by 585HE. By Tankhunter with his Ruger #1. If you use closeup on picture, you see loaded round on the buffs hide next to the 585HE Ruger #1.... A nice heavy barreled gun..Ed http://www.gunownerstv.com/tankbuff.jpg I put the 585 in a Savage 112, lots of room l...

In the pictures above you see the older first cases I made from Nyati cases and other cases that were Nyati clones. These were straight basic, long, untrimed cases, so I could get the longer case we wanted. We get asked about the process of doing it and here is picture sketch showing original case, ...

WE get asked about whether the 585HE is a DD due to being over 50 cal, and no it is not, as we applied for and got a sporting cartridge exemption few years ago. First picture is base view of cases new and old. On the left is the 4 new ones that come with no headstamp that I stamped, and the 6 new on...

In a related 585 caliber size we made the 24ga FH, and lengthened 24ga chamber to 3 inches. The barrel of our 585HE is .585" bore and rifled 24ga bore, are same size. And some of 58cal Minie bullets available to buy or cast are .585-.687" and work in the 24ga case fine. Now we found a fast...

We've put some of the 585HE bolt guns in composite and Hogue stocks, and they are rugged for extreme weather. And they don't break under heavy loads. And with their hollow butts very easy to add weight to take up recoil. If lead and epoxy added to a complete fill of the hollow, too much weight, so I...

We get asked about recoil. Guns are weighted a little, thick pads, can be ported, use moderate loads, they shoot nice...Moderate/hunting/target loads still much more energy than 577NE. And can be had without costing a years pay. Versatility. Most none elephant hunters can use on lighter game, for ex...

Just introducing myself. Ed Hubel from MI I am a big bore researcher, gunnut, and wildcatter, and have posted our work around the net. I have worked on 12ga From He!! and up and down. And have some wildcat cases.Like this one that is getting around.The 585 Hubel Express. Here is picture of the first...