And from SS's Little Shop of Horrors...

[Seismic Sam]

Totally unique FUBAR. Can't even tell if it's factory loaded or handloaded. I think the real miracle is that it went off at all, and that something worse didn't happen when it did go off.

Obviously, a seating error. My guess is the bullet was a FMJ instead of lead. Note the unusual damage to the rim of the case.



Yep, that case mouth got folded all the way over and pressed flat in seating or firing...



And now the true horror and mystery begins to unfold:



And gets even more unbelievable:



And makes you wonder how a primer this badly canted in the case could have ever fired:



Anybody wants to expound some theories of how this happened, it would make for an interesting discussion.

[FJ540]

Without knowing how primers are installed at a commercial loading facility, it's hard to say how that happened.

Since the presses I've dealt with (all home owner variety, non-automated) seat the primer off the bottom of the case, having a belled mouth wouldn't impact the alignment for the primer seating - and that makes what happened look factory to me.

But then who's dumb enough to load a round like that into a mag, let alone shoot it?

I can't think of a reasonable person who'd take that off their press and go "yeah, let's see how this works!"

[JoeH]

Could the case mouth and primer issues be unrelated? Perhaps the case mouth deformity was a stove pipe? IDK

[FJ540]

Ever seen a stove pipe that was crushed smooth with the ID of the case? I sure haven't.

[westberg]

It appears to be a reload to me. I've seen both happen but don't recall it happening on the same case. The case rim can get ripped like this in the sizing die if it's not aligned feeding in, then primed obviously bad, rotated to powder measure station and the powder measure tube flattens it to the inside case wall. I'm guessing it was all done on a progressive press. It can run through all of the stations and still pass a chamber check. For what ever reason the primer didn't seat right, they should have been able to feel it. It's carelessness or wanting to see if it would still fire.

[Bulldawg]

I have never seen a factory Federal 9mm case that didn't have a nickle plated primer. Most likely a reload.

[Dutch]

Looks like a reload where the case had ejection problems on the previous reload and damaged the case mouth and the owner decided to use it again anyways.

[crbutler]

Looks to me like what happens when someone forces a jammed progressive press. Sometimes the primer goes off (done that, learned not to do this anymore), but usually the priming compound pellet breaks and the primer won't fire and doesn't go off.

The case is not lined up with the priming station, it doesn't seat right and damages the case base. The case is then cockeyed and goes to expansion and is smeared or torn, and then it gets a bullet seated that causes folding.

If you use a final crimp die, it may get resized to where it will chamber, but then you usually tear the extractor groove open (like you see here) when you eject the round from the press.

This is why you should inspect every round when you box them, and when you load them in the mag.

[grousemaster]

You gonna reload this one?

[ijosef]

You gonna reload this one?

I was going to post the exact same thing!

[tullibee]

OK, so who is trolling Seismic by #$%ing up casings to this extent and seeding the range with them so he'll find them?

I can maybe see with a progressive how you might just dump a bunch of rounds from the bin into a container, but how can you screw a round up this bad and not notice it when you load the mag?

[plblark]

Everybody has to have a hobby, right tullibee?

[engnerdan]

OK, so who is trolling Seismic by #$%ing up casings to this extent and seeding the range with them so he'll find them?

I can maybe see with a progressive how you might just dump a bunch of rounds from the bin into a container, but how can you screw a round up this bad and not notice it when you load the mag?

I now have a reason why I want to join OGC. I have a whole jar of "SeisicSam bait" already waiting.

[photogpat]

OK, so who is trolling Seismic by #$%ing up casings to this extent and seeding the range with them so he'll find them?

I can maybe see with a progressive how you might just dump a bunch of rounds from the bin into a container, but how can you screw a round up this bad and not notice it when you load the mag?

I now have a reason why I want to join OGC. I have a whole jar of "SeisicSam bait" already waiting.

Just wait until after the first -- I'll have a torch and welding kit in my stocking this year!