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Re: Carry Ammo

Postby goalie on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:39 pm

First case: I'm not a cop. Not an issue, I'm not stopping the guy. Even so, while there was an argument made, it was demolished by a good lawyer and witness and didn't end up in a good guy in jail.

Second case: Not a self-defense shooting. If I had a suicidal wife she wouldn't have access. Regardless, it isn't a self-defense scenario at all.

Third case: The fatal bullet being a reload was a non-factor even according to the author. Also not convicted.

The last case didn't even involve handloads.

So, again, I won't waste my time worrying about crap that is as likely to change my life as flying monkeys are.

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Re: Carry Ammo

Postby goalie on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:41 pm

smurfman wrote:For me, the most important reason for using factory ammo rather than reloads is for my heirs in the event of the ammo misfiring. If I am using reloads they will not get much from my estate.


I'm worth more dead to my family than alive.

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Re: Carry Ammo

Postby goalie on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:43 pm

tman wrote:The best reason for using factory loads versus hand loaded ammo is reliability.

Will it go bang when you pull the trigger? Is it likely to be a squib? etc.


Have you ever had a bad round out of your reloaded ammo? My only bad rounds so far were crappy, cheap, factory ammo.

That included tens of thousands of rounds of 9mm reloads through my G17.
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Re: Carry Ammo

Postby Snowgun on Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:46 pm

Well I want to reload my carry ammo as well, so I'm just gonna use Goalie as a reference if it hits the fan. ;)

I agree with the quality on reloaded ammo, if you do it right, you get better quality than factory. I've made 5000 rounds in 1 year reloading and have a better track record than the factory or purchased reloaded ammo i've used.
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Re: Carry Ammo

Postby goalie on Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:33 pm

Snowgun wrote:Well I want to reload my carry ammo as well, so I'm just gonna use Goalie as a reference if it hits the fan. ;)


Follow my rules and you'll be fine:

1. Walk Away
2. If you can't walk away, run away
3. If you can't run away, you didn't walk away soon enough.
4. If you have to shoot, shoot till the threat stops, then run away.
5. Call a GOOD lawyer after #4.

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Carry Ammo

Postby jshuberg on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:24 pm

The difference can be that if the crime lab is able to corroborate your account of the incident from the physical evidence, they may simply decide not to prosecute. If they can't corroborate, and you refuse to plea, they may decide to take it to trial.

Yes, you'll want to find the very best lawyer you can afford either way. Having him represent you while being interviewed is a lot cheaper than having him represent you during a lengthy trial.

It's just a smart idea to take every step you can to cover your butt if everything goes wrong. Document your training, don't talk to the cops, know the law and avoid bad situations, and use factory ammo. Except those Hornady zombie rounds that say something on the box to effect "Not for use against the living" or whatever it is. It's funny to some people, but possibly not a jury....
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Re: Carry Ammo

Postby BigDog58 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:17 am

Last year I joined USCCA (United States Conceal Carry Association) that has an insurance policy linked to your membership that offers diffrent levels (amount of money) of legal coverage if you are involved in a shooting incident. You also get a magazine and website access with good articles on self defense and Concealed Carry issues.

I highly suggest that anyone that has a CCW permit and actually carries, look into this organization and the policies offered. I have a membership for myself and my wife. I hope that neither of us are EVER put into a situation where we have to use the policy, but I feel that being prepared is a good thing. I feel that being disabled, places me in a more precarious position, when it comes to self defense. I'm unable to run away and if I can't talk down the situation, I could be placed in a position that I would have no choice, but to defend myself to the fullest. As for my wife, she sometimes has to go into less desirable areas and sometimes it is late at night and I want her to never be in fear.

I know that none of us ever wants to have to draw, much less use our weapon. But, in today's climate, we must always be prepared for the worst.
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