Bayou 124gn .357 bullets. Nothing to crimp?

[OldmanFCSA]

Load them in 38Spcl cases and shoot in your 357Magnum. Load accordingly.

[Sigfan220]

I'd get some SWC and call it a day. Not worth messing around with taper crimp on a 357.

[grimbeaver]

I'd get some SWC and call it a day. Not worth messing around with taper crimp on a 357.

I wouldn't say that. I taper crimp light loads with Xtreme bullets all the time.

[Ron Burgundy]

That profile is meant for autoloaders. I know several that shoot that diameter(.357) in 9mm.

Bayou is a good company. Try the 158 SWCs. I've shot thousands.

[OldmanFCSA]

I'd get some SWC and call it a day. Not worth messing around with taper crimp on a 357.

I wouldn't say that. I taper crimp light loads with Xtreme bullets all the time.

Taper crimps applied correctly are much easier to apply in difficult situations.
I taper crimp most pistol or revolver cartridges except 44Mag which I roll crimp to get better burn and velocity with proper projectile (300 gr).

I even taper crimp some rifle cartridges, not to apply a heavy crimp but to reform the front of case to permit easy loading of cartridge into chamber of semi-auto chambers. A crimp does happen though .

[Rodentman]

Agree. Don't use them. And you'd not want to load them to the levels required to cycle a Coonan.

[grimbeaver]

I don't get all the hate for taper crimps on 357. There are several reasons for using a taper crimp. For one a taper crimp is less sensitive to case length so you don't have to worry as much about sorting and trimming. Second if you are loading cheap rounds with plated bullets it is less likely to cut the plating.

I have both profile and taper crimp Redding dies. I use the profile for magnum rounds and the taper for light rounds.

[Seismic Sam]

I don't get all the hate for taper crimps on 357. There are several reasons for using a taper crimp. For one a taper crimp is less sensitive to case length so you don't have to worry as much about sorting and trimming. Second if you are loading cheap rounds with plated bullets it is less likely to cut the plating.

I have both profile and taper crimp Redding dies. I use the profile for magnum rounds and the taper for light rounds.

Well, if you're a veteran reloader and ALREADY have both taper AND roll crimp .357 dies (and Redding dies at that!!) then it's a non-issue. For newer reloaders who buy 100 SWOMP!! brand bullets and get .358" diameter bullets with a 9mm nose profile and the wrong OAL data, it's going to require that you spend 4 times the paltry $7.50 you spent for your SWOMP!! brand bullets just to use up them damn bullets, and they're not proper 357 shape anyway. That's a fairly valid reason to get honked off a bit.

[Spike]

I don't get all the hate for taper crimps on 357. There are several reasons for using a taper crimp. For one a taper crimp is less sensitive to case length so you don't have to worry as much about sorting and trimming. Second if you are loading cheap rounds with plated bullets it is less likely to cut the plating.

I have both profile and taper crimp Redding dies. I use the profile for magnum rounds and the taper for light rounds.

Well, if you're a veteran reloader and ALREADY have both taper AND roll crimp .357 dies (and Redding dies at that!!) then it's a non-issue. For newer reloaders who buy 100 SWOMP!! brand bullets and get .358" diameter bullets with a 9mm nose profile and the wrong OAL data, it's going to require that you spend 4 times the paltry $7.50 you spent for your SWOMP!! brand bullets just to use up them damn bullets, and they're not proper 357 shape anyway. That's a fairly valid reason to get honked off a bit.

I'm not sure how everyone got the impression that I don't own a taper crimp die for .357. My confusion was them selling 9mm bullets as .357 and not wanting to exceed the OAL for .357. When seated to maximum OAL in a .357 case there is literally nothing to put _any_ kind of crimp against.

For what it's worth, I compared these ".357" bullets against some 124gr 9mm bullets but the same swamp people and the profiles are exactly the same. The only difference is in the size. ~.358 for the ones they are calling .357 and about .356 for the "9mm" bullets. I'm tempted to try them in 9mm and see if they'll chamber or maybe not...

Anyhow, I won't be buying any more swamp bullets.

[Ron Burgundy]

A lot of 9mm barrels will slug to .357. Mine don't but I know several that do.

[andrewP]

A lot of 9mm barrels will slug to .357. Mine don't but I know several that do.

Not the first time I've heard that; my understanding is that it's fairly common for Beretta 92 barrels to measure .357, and thus work best with bullets sized .358.