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Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby Bearcatrp on Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:51 pm

Finally going to sell just the bullet.
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby 870TC on Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:25 pm

Cool!. The factory loaded ones shoot great.
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby Bearcatrp on Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:39 pm

I've been bugging Hornady allot to release these for reloading. Shoot great out of my 8 inch BO. Nice and quiet too with my sandman-s. Never developed loads for subsonic but once I get some of these, will start. Already have about 20 boxes of the commercial ammo I've built up.
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby Dill on Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:16 pm

cool. I got tired of waiting and bought a bunch of Makers REX 220's. I'm hoping to put one into a deer this season (opening weekend was a bust).
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby crbutler on Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:26 pm

I’ve had good luck with Nosler’s subsonic 220 he ballistic tip from an accuracy standpoint.

I can’t justify shooting a game animal with a subsonic to myself, so no experience with terminal performance.
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby warrlac on Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:14 pm

What would happend if you put that bullet in a 300 RUM and shot it at 3300 fps?

KABOOM?
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby crbutler on Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:23 pm

Which one? The hornady?

It might come apart in flight. I know the Nosler 220 subsonic is very inaccurate in my 300 ultra compared to the standard 220 partition. I tried it as a cheap hunting load comparison practice round.

More likely it would expand so fast that you would get a nasty surface wound if you hit something with it a close range. At long range it would expand well.

The subsonic bullets are intended to expand at lower velocities.
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby Bearcatrp on Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:20 pm

When I get a few boxes, will load up a few at max charge to see how they do out of my 308 bolt rifle. Could try some out of my 12.5 inch 308 AR too.
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:05 pm

warrlac wrote:What would happend if you put that bullet in a 300 RUM and shot it at 3300 fps?

KABOOM?

How would it kaboom?
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby warrlac on Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:57 pm

Probably not designed to stay together at that kind of velocity and accompanying spin rate. I'm guessing it would fly apart if it's designed to expand at subsonic velocities...

Holland&Holland wrote:
warrlac wrote:What would happend if you put that bullet in a 300 RUM and shot it at 3300 fps?

KABOOM?

How would it kaboom?
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby Dill on Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:23 am

maybe it would break apart and act like a scattergun
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby Bearcatrp on Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:34 am

I sent hornady a email to see if its possible to shoot these out of a 308 at max speed for a 190 grain bullet.
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:53 pm

warrlac wrote:Probably not designed to stay together at that kind of velocity and accompanying spin rate. I'm guessing it would fly apart if it's designed to expand at subsonic velocities...

Holland&Holland wrote:
warrlac wrote:What would happend if you put that bullet in a 300 RUM and shot it at 3300 fps?

KABOOM?

How would it kaboom?

Ok I get that. I think of a kaboom as something else.
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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby BigDog58 on Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:36 pm

warrlac wrote:What would happend if you put that bullet in a 300 RUM and shot it at 3300 fps?

KABOOM?


With a fast twist and extreme velocity, my bet would be the bullet would disintegrate in flight.

Something like this video

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Re: Hornady 190 Sub-Finally

Postby Bearcatrp on Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:09 pm

Got a reply:

Due to the fact it was developed for a small cartridge round it may not however; our lab is shooting the data for that bullet for other cartridges and the extended terminal velocity range, max and min. Once they have done that it will be available here and may be posted on the website but I'd ask that you contact us after the first of the year when it should be done.
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Guess I will wait until they test it out. Still not in stock yet.
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