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Odd looking range pick ups

Postby crbutler on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:38 pm

Finally got around to sorting out brass from last summer at FRPC (after matches pick up- I don't find even 10% of the .40 I shoot)...

Someone has a really screwed up AK out there.

This is Fiocchi 7.62x39 brass... not bad stuff.

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Looks like a fire forming load- false shoulder.

It probably could be FL resized and reused after trimming, but with what surplus 7.62x39 goes for, I won't bother.
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby westhope on Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:43 pm

7.62x39 can be fire formed to make 401 WSL or 351 WSL cases. I haven't done it, but it is one way to get cases for those.
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby Holland&Holland on Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:55 pm

7.62 x 39 improved :D ?
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby smurfman on Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:09 pm

I've formed 401 WSL from 7.62x39 but did not need to make a false shoulder. I just ran the brass through the 401 sizer after expanding the neck in a couple of steps. The pictures appear to have been necked down which would not have been needed with the 401. Plus, the 401 is a more or less straight swapped case and would not have a shoulder.

I hadn't heard of the 351 WSL being made from the AK round but I hadn't heard of using it for the 401 at one time. I've made my 351 cases from 357 Maximum cases when necessary. I don't think a falseshoulder would be needed here either for the same reason as the 401. It too, is a straight walled case when done.

My best guess (though not an overly scientific one) would be a poorly cut chamber. Or, maybe it's from a Ruger Mini 30 as they use a .308" groove rather than .310" or larger. No matter what, the Fiocchi is good brass and forms nicer 401s than Winchester brass.
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby crbutler on Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:01 am

They are not necked down-

These were cases I picked up in the dirt out at FRPC- someone fired them.

By measurement the "narrow" part is proper neck diameter.

That is, in effect, a chamber cast of someone's AK (or whatever 30 short russian) chamber.

They LOOK liked what you try and make for a false shoulder while fireforming, but that isn't what these are.
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:53 am

More case capacity that way.
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby Ghost on Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:04 am

Every time I see this thread title I think of things like this

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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby crbutler on Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:13 am

Yeah, that’s an odd range pick up, all right.

I’ve been told that this is probably a Saiga AK, that lots of folks have seen these from those rifles per another forum.

Good reason not to get one of those, I guess.
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:40 am

crbutler wrote:Yeah, that’s an odd range pick up, all right.

I’ve been told that this is probably a Saiga AK, that lots of folks have seen these from those rifles per another forum.

Good reason not to get one of those, I guess.

Oh I don't know. Bet it feeds reliably!
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:42 am

Ghost wrote:Every time I see this thread title I think of things like this

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If I was single and managed to pick her up at the range I would not consider her odd looking.

Oh, wait did you mean the truck?
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby OldmanFCSA on Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:06 am

Based on content of last posting, I would need pictures of both to make that decision.





Based on topic, the odd ones I see are 300 Win Mag cases fired in a 300 Weatherby Mag chamber ---- and other like comparisons.
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Re: Odd looking range pick ups

Postby crbutler on Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:39 pm

I’ve seen plenty of cases from firing in the improper chamber, but this was the first false neck in an “appropriate” chamber.

I used to have a .308 case (although it looked like it had been redone into a wildcat by shoulder and neck) that some yahoo fired in a .284 win... that looked.... interesting.
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