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Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:45 pm

Is there a manual out there with load data for 230gr LRN on top of Bullseye for .45acp? I can't seem to find one........ Maybe its time to get another pistol powder...... Gosh I hope not, I'm pretty keen on bullseye.
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Re: looking for load confirmation

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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby HAMnSIGS on Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:07 am

Stradawhovious wrote:Is there a manual out there with load data for 230gr LRN on top of Bullseye for .45acp? I can't seem to find one........ Maybe its time to get another pistol powder...... Gosh I hope not, I'm pretty keen on bullseye.


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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby Stradawhovious on Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:21 am

Thanks guys. Two different sources, exact same numbers. I really only need these things to trickle out of the end of the barrel. I'm just glad I don't have to buy a different powder. Having only one powder for pistol loads has proven to be pleasantly simple.
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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby DeanC on Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:44 am

Kind of funny. They say on the Bullseye page "America's best known pistol powder. Unsurpassed for .45 ACP target loads." And yet under the 45 auto data, there is not a single recipe for 230gr LRN.
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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby HAMnSIGS on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:13 am

DeanC wrote:Kind of funny. They say on the Bullseye page "America's best known pistol powder. Unsurpassed for .45 ACP target loads." And yet under the 45 auto data, there is not a single recipe for 230gr LRN.


Yeah that is odd, However they do list 230 FMJ and common knowledge is that Lead bullets of same weight as Jacketed can safely be used with the Jacketed bullet load data so it is there in a way.

Problem is that alot of new reloaders tend to rely on internet data vs. reading a manual and understanding the principles of safe reloading practice.

Not implying anthing about anybody just that the situation of knowledge being available online FREE is to often used as replacement to starting from scratch and reading manuals etc. that teach us. I myself have not purchased as many new manuals as I did before the "Internet" simply to save money. New data for new powder is free online so not "money wise" to buy the book that tells the same.

Glad to be of help and provide data

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I am not advocating NOT to buy a manual and I do whole heartedly believe that all data should be double checked.
Although I will not run out and buy a manual before loading a "NEW" powder as likely I will be able to find more than enough info either printed supplements, Company web page or other reputable online resource, all free or pay a fee to join a website related to such(I do this).
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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby macphisto on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:18 am

HAMnSIGS wrote:common knowledge is that Lead bullets of same weight as Jacketed can safely be used with the Jacketed bullet load data so it is there in a way.

Uh oh.




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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby Stradawhovious on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:20 am

macphisto wrote:
HAMnSIGS wrote:common knowledge is that Lead bullets of same weight as Jacketed can safely be used with the Jacketed bullet load data so it is there in a way.

Uh oh.


Yeah, I was just typing the same thing an you beat me to it. Alliant puts 230gr FMJ almost full grain over max charge for 2 different sources for 230 LRN.......... I would rethink this strategy............ Seismic Sam in 3.......2.......1.......
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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby EJSG19 on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:25 am

Oh Lord...

#1 bold section: Please edit that quickly, before you give SS a rage-induced headache.

#2 bold section: Are you advocating that people shouldn't buy reloading manuals? See the request in #1. Its been proven over and over that even published reloading data can be wrong. A manufacturer's website, and/or their manual can have typo's, which could lead to pain, injury or death. Its a scary thing not to cross check load data between multiple, credible sources.


HAMnSIGS wrote:
DeanC wrote:Kind of funny. They say on the Bullseye page "America's best known pistol powder. Unsurpassed for .45 ACP target loads." And yet under the 45 auto data, there is not a single recipe for 230gr LRN.


Yeah that is odd, However they do list 230 FMJ and common knowledge is that Lead bullets of same weight as Jacketed can safely be used with the Jacketed bullet load data so it is there in a way.

Problem is that alot of new reloaders tend to rely on internet data vs. reading a manual and understanding the principles of safe reloading practice.

Not implying anthing about anybody just that the situation of knowledge being available online FREE is to often used as replacement to starting from scratch and reading manuals etc. that teach us. I myself have not purchased as many new manuals as I did before the "Internet" simply to save money. New data for new powder is free online so not "money wise" to buy the book that tells the same.
Glad to be of help and provide data

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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby JoeH on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:38 am

Strad, are these for your 625?

When developing light target loads for my 4" 625 with Titegroup, I needed to go a little faster than the same load for a 5" 1911. The load worked fine in a 1911 but my 625 bullets were tumbling and key holing the target. Adding .2gr of Titegroup (still a light load) fixed the issue. Since your 625 is a 5" you may have a better shot at loads that work well in both guns.
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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby Stradawhovious on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:49 am

Yeah, guilty as charged! I'm using a different weight (and shape) bullet for the 625 as well, so it will be a whole new load for me. Thanks for the heads up though! I will take it into consideration.
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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby Bessy on Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:16 am

Stradawhovious wrote:Yeah, guilty as charged! I'm using a different weight (and shape) bullet for the 625 as well, so it will be a whole new load for me. Thanks for the heads up though! I will take it into consideration.


Strad also keep in mind the published loads in your book are going to yield slightly lower fps out of a revo than what is published. Revolvers loose some gas out of the gap. Just something to keep in mind!
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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby Stradawhovious on Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:27 am

Bessy wrote:
Stradawhovious wrote:Yeah, guilty as charged! I'm using a different weight (and shape) bullet for the 625 as well, so it will be a whole new load for me. Thanks for the heads up though! I will take it into consideration.


Strad also keep in mind the published loads in your book are going to yield slightly lower fps out of a revo than what is published. Revolvers loose some gas out of the gap. Just something to keep in mind!


Already taken into consideration, but thanks! Always good to have a heads up.
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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby DeanC on Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:00 pm

Strad, also keep in mind... aww nevermind... it's probably not an issue for you... but, well, it is pretty serious... well I wouldn't worry about it... just forget I said anything.
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Re: looking for load confirmation

Postby Stradawhovious on Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:08 pm

DeanC wrote: just forget I said anything.


Done.
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