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FTE problem with reloads

Postby bluelens on Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:49 am

I have been having about 1 in 100 rounds fail to eject from my 9 mm reloads, can't figure out why. The round fires and the case just stays in the barrel and jams as the next round trys to feed into it. Happens with both Bullseye and Unique powder. I am loading them on the "light" side for powder, but still well within the range. I do separate my brass and I get the same problem with WIN, PMC, Blazer, etc. Never have any issues with factory ammo, so it is clearly my reloads. Using 115 gr and 124 gr FMJ from several different companies, still get the same issue.

Mostly using a RIA 9 mm 1911, but also have had the same issue in my Glock 17 (though less frequent). Any suggestions?
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby plblark on Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:05 am

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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby Stradawhovious on Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:05 am

What does it take to get the case out? Will it come out if you cycle the slide a few times, or is it stuck to the point that you have to coax it out with a cleaning rod?
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby bluelens on Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:14 am

Using a lt crimp. Haven't tried changing that variable. The shell comes out easy enough by racking the slide, just perplexed as to why it happens. Never had this issue with the other calibers: 45, 38 super, etc..
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby bluelens on Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:17 am

Use a turret press for reloads, 4 stations with the 4th being the lee factory crimp die. No issues using the smae setup for other calibers.
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby Shipyard on Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:29 am

so to clarify...

the slide DOES cycle and pushed the next round forward. however, the spent brass is still seated in the bore so it jams up.

if light loads were the culprit, you would mostlike see the slide not cycling completely. if it's not extracting i would check three things:

first, if the chamber dirty? are you just sticking brass so hard it can't extract? give'r a good scrub and polish. see if it free's up.

second, is your extractor CLEAN? top, sides, behind? might want to strip it and give a good scrub. a new spring if it's an older gun with a lot of rounds on it.

third - are you using any kind of case lube? are you not getting it all OFF of the roudns when you're done? are you getting lube in the rim of the case so the extractor is slipping off the brass?

my $0.02, check a few things out and give a shout :D
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby Shipyard on Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:32 am

also - are you polishing brass between each reload? might be a clanliness issue if it's dirty going in... duno, don't have a lot of experience with that one...

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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby 870TC on Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:08 am

Misc. brass from range pickups may be bulged at the base, just forward of the rim. If this is happening, the rounds are getting stuck when the gun shoves them into the chamber the first time (don't ask how I know :oops: ). To test for this, take your barrel out of the gun and start dropping live rounds into the chamber, see if some don't go in as far as others. You may want to compare to a factory round.
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby usnret on Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:10 pm

Believe it or not, you might want to change your recoil spring.
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby macphisto on Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:20 pm

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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby rugersol on Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:24 pm

1/100 is tough to diagnose!

When's the last time ya removed/cleaned the extractor? ... may not be 100% of the problem ... don't mean it ain't 20% of the problem, though!

Buy 300pcs new brass ... load 'em up ... shoot 'em ... if ya have zero problems with 'em, yer not resizing yer fired cases properly ... if ya have one of the same problem, it's either yer gun, or yer crushing the case with yer crimp set too far!

When I've had similar issues, it was the brass ... old WWII .45acp ... now I pitch 'em when I spot 'em.

Also had issues with POF 9mm brass ... pitch them, too!

If yer across reputable head-stamps, that must not be it ... to extent yer sure 'bout that.
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby bluelens on Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:43 pm

Great ideas! I did change the recoil spring right away, didn't solve the problem. Only an issue with my reloads, runs very smooth with factory ammo. Using mostly reloaded WIN brass, but I do have new brass I can use. WIll also try some of the other ideas mentioned and see if it helps.
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby Shipyard on Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:23 pm

also - make sure you're full length sixing the brass ALL THE WAY down - if you're stopping a little short you could be leaving the "glock bulge" at the base.

you may also want to inspect for any case buldge that isn't getting caught by the factory crimp die.

maybe get a case gauge and run 200 thorugh? see if any of them stick in the gauge and then fire them to see if they're the culprits. a gauge is only like $20 IIRC...
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby rugersol on Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:25 pm

Shipyard wrote:a gauge is only like $20 IIRC...

bbl's $20 less! Image
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Re: FTE problem with reloads

Postby ScatterGun4015 on Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:14 pm

What kind of powder measure equiptment are you using. I made about 2000 rounds using the free lee boom style and had no issues with my p89, but would cycle the slide just enough to get it jammed on my sr9. I went and bought a dillon electronic scale and found that I was undercharging my loads by as much as a half grain. Stepped it up a little and have never had a problem since. Aparently I can't read a boom scale.......
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