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Postby BBeckwith on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:01 pm

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12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby Hammer99... on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:15 pm

Very neat...
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby OldmanFCSA on Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:20 am

Wonder if that's what happened when we taped 12 ga shells to end of our 22's and fired while holding high over our heads.

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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby LarryFlew on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:02 pm

Used to tape them to BB gun (pre-plastic shells). Pretty much just disappeared other than the brass and BB's never hit anything beyond 3 feet away. Once time each was enough :hammer:

Also did the 12 gauge in the crotch of a tree where they just kind of blew up. Then one of the guys decided to try a 30-06. Case came back and went through the meaty part of his thigh.

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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:22 pm

LarryFlew wrote: Then one of the guys decided to try a 30-06. Case came back and went through the meaty part of his thigh.


Better than going through the meaty part of his head I guess.....
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby photogpat on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:30 pm

There was a kid in my neighborhood who rigged something (I think a ball bearing) over the primer on a 12 gauge shotshell, he threw it up into the air in the street one night when we were all playing out there...it flashed, then I remember the kid going to the hospital with the ball bearing in his knee...man, that was a lot of blood...
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:36 pm

photogpat wrote:There was a kid in my neighborhood who rigged something (I think a ball bearing) over the primer on a 12 gauge shotshell, he threw it up into the air in the street one night when we were all playing out there...it flashed, then I remember the kid going to the hospital with the ball bearing in his knee...man, that was a lot of blood...


Kids are **** brilliant.

Its amazing most of us made it through childhood.

Back to the video, it doesn't look like any of the powder burned. Was that just the force of the primer, or am I missing something?
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby photogpat on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:43 pm

You're mainly seeing the primer and a few grains of the powder going...not all the powder will burn without the round being supported in the chamber of a firearm. The powder charge continues to burn behind the wad/bullet/slug as it proceeds down the barrel. This is why on short barrelled rifles/shotguns you get such a giant muzzle flash, unburned powder coming out the barrel ignites...pistol powder is much faster burning to compensate for the shorter barrels.
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:55 pm

photogpat wrote:You're mainly seeing the primer and a few grains of the powder going...not all the powder will burn without the round being supported in the chamber of a firearm. The powder charge continues to burn behind the wad/bullet/slug as it proceeds down the barrel. This is why on short barrelled rifles/shotguns you get such a giant muzzle flash, unburned powder coming out the barrel ignites...pistol powder is much faster burning to compensate for the shorter barrels.



Makes sense.

Smokless powder, it would seem, is far less flammable than advertised. This is a good indicator of that.
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby FJ540 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:52 am

Take a spoon full (50gr or so) and put it on something that won't burn - then place that in your driveway or back yard and use a 18" match or similar to light it. Highly uneventful, very consistent burn - kinda like a road flare. Yawn...

You only get the "bang" when you contain it so the pressure can build. This is probably why wooden crates are the preferred storage medium for large quantities of powder - they don't seal well enough to detonate.

IOW, your house exploding from your reloading stash going up is only likely if you managed to burn through your gas main and had a secondary ignition after the basement filled with gas.


Now a large quantity of pistol powder inside a soup can makes for a much bigger "road flare," so I've heard. 8-)
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby Stradawhovious on Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:11 am

FJ540 wrote:Take a spoon full (50gr or so) and put it on something that won't burn - then place that in your driveway or back yard and use a 18" match or similar to light it. Highly uneventful, very consistent burn - kinda like a road flare. Yawn...

You only get the "bang" when you contain it so the pressure can build. This is probably why wooden crates are the preferred storage medium for large quantities of powder - they don't seal well enough to detonate.

IOW, your house exploding from your reloading stash going up is only likely if you managed to burn through your gas main and had a secondary ignition after the basement filled with gas.


Now a large quantity of pistol powder inside a soup can makes for a much bigger "road flare," so I've heard. 8-)



Well yeah, I knew all that. But to see almost NONE of it burn from a primer blast is surprising.
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby photogpat on Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:30 am

Stradawhovious wrote:Well yeah, I knew all that. But to see almost NONE of it burn from a primer blast is surprising.


Remind me to show you a video and some pictures on Sunday.
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby DeanC on Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:40 pm

FJ540 wrote:Now a large quantity of pistol powder inside a soup can makes for a much bigger "road flare," so I've heard. 8-)

You should see a metal coffee can go up. :oops:
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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby MisterOblivious on Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:18 pm

FJ540 wrote:Take a spoon full (50gr or so) and put it on something that won't burn - then place that in your driveway or back yard and use a 18" match or similar to light it. Highly uneventful, very consistent burn - kinda like a road flare. Yawn...

You only get the "bang" when you contain it so the pressure can build. This is probably why wooden crates are the preferred storage medium for large quantities of powder - they don't seal well enough to detonate.

IOW, your house exploding from your reloading stash going up is only likely if you managed to burn through your gas main and had a secondary ignition after the basement filled with gas.


Now a large quantity of pistol powder inside a soup can makes for a much bigger "road flare," so I've heard. 8-)


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Re: 12 gauge fired with no barrel

Postby FJ540 on Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:30 pm

http://www.alliantpowder.com/getting_st ... dling.aspx

I'm not sure an ammo can has the structural rigidity to make a very large boom. I do know someplace you could try it and find out. :lol:
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