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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby smurfman on Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:20 pm

engnerdan wrote:Ok all this old 45 ammo is going to force me to go to my dads house and get pictures of the 45 ACP ammo he has without seperate primers. The case head is solid.



45 ACP or 45 Colt? The early 45/70 and 45 Colt and S&W ammunition produced by government arsenals were inside primed. The 45/70 ran from introduction until 1882 but I don't know just when it was stopped in the 45 S&W cartridge (the issue cartridge after 1875 was the 45 S&W cartridge rather than the 45 Colt as the S&W Schofield had been adopted as a sidearm along with the Colt 1873 and the S&W cartridge was chosen to simplify logistics). An inside primed 45 ACP would be pretty strange as that process had been stopped a few decades before that round had been developed.
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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby engnerdan on Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:33 pm

smurfman wrote:
engnerdan wrote:Ok all this old 45 ammo is going to force me to go to my dads house and get pictures of the 45 ACP ammo he has without seperate primers. The case head is solid.



45 ACP or 45 Colt? The early 45/70 and 45 Colt and S&W ammunition produced by government arsenals were inside primed. The 45/70 ran from introduction until 1882 but I don't know just when it was stopped in the 45 S&W cartridge (the issue cartridge after 1875 was the 45 S&W cartridge rather than the 45 Colt as the S&W Schofield had been adopted as a sidearm along with the Colt 1873 and the S&W cartridge was chosen to simplify logistics). An inside primed 45 ACP would be pretty strange as that process had been stopped a few decades before that round had been developed.



I'll get some pictures, he has a handful of 45 inside primed and to the best of my knowledge is was 45 ACP.
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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby Seismic Sam on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:20 am

45 Rimfire I might buy for 45LC or some other old, moldy 45 calibers, but NOT 45 ACP.
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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby ex-LT on Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:25 am

timwarner wrote:
hicap45z wrote:How about this one?

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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby timwarner on Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:37 am

Hah, good point. Guess I was just looking at post count.
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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby hicap45z on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:01 pm

ex-LT wrote:
timwarner wrote:
hicap45z wrote:How about this one?

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Thanks, ex-LT.
I just don't talk that much.

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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby JoeH on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:14 pm

hicap45z wrote:Thanks, ex-LT.
I just don't talk that much.

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In person, now that's another story. :P
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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby hicap45z on Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:08 pm

JoeH wrote:
hicap45z wrote:Thanks, ex-LT.
I just don't talk that much.

hicap45z


In person, now that's another story. :P


You're right, Joe.
I forgot to put the smiley face after my original comment.

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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby engnerdan on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:58 pm

As promised 45 Auto (acp) internal primed. Now before someone tries to tell me 45 AUTO and 45 ACP are different they measure out exactly the same.

Headstamp reads WW 45 AUTO
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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby crbutler on Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:12 pm

Pretty neat....

I have a suspicion those are not live ammo.

The other thing those may be are factory proving dummies, that have never been primed. The reason I say that is one is a old fashioned wadcutter bullet, and they may have been something that WW put out as a set of proving dummies for arsenal rework/gunsmithing. If they had been non commercial, the would have been headstamped WCC, so I don't think they are pre- 1910 commercial ammo.

Still a neat find, though!
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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby timwarner on Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:36 pm

nice vise.
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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby Seismic Sam on Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:16 am

timwarner wrote:nice vise.


Is it from Miami?? :P
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Re: is this what i think it is?

Postby Hanns on Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:12 am

Back in '94 or '95 when I was in the Army we scared up some .45 ammo and took the mechanics to the range to qualify with their M3 greaseguns. Most of them had never qualified with them since we could never get any .45 ammo. We let them burn off 2 mags a piece and then the Sgt and I sat there for the rest of the afternoon burning off the rest of the ammo. Most of it was steel cased ammo from WWII, must have been sitting in the back of the ASP for a long time. Neat bit of history.
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