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.223 ammo

Postby wildfan1 on Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:22 pm

So now that I finally got a nice .223 target AR, I am wondering about ammo. I ordered some misc brands and sizes to see what my gun likes. Curious what you guys use. Ideally I'd like to find a decent but affordable round for general target shooting, 100-300 yards, and a good varmint round. Looking for accuracy, as I want to test my skills. If I could shoot sub 1" groups at 300 yards I'd be thrilled

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Re: .223 ammo

Postby farmerj on Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:28 pm

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Re: .223 ammo

Postby arizona98tj on Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:40 pm

wildfan1 wrote:If I could shoot sub 1" groups at 300 yards I'd be thrilled


Good luck...you will be making your own loads, in my opinion, if you hope to shoot that well. Very little (any?) factory ammo will give you 1/4 MOA. You must have bought one heck of a rifle if it can deliver a group like that.
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Re: .223 ammo

Postby crbutler on Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:24 pm

For that level of performance (1/3 MOA at 300), you will be better off loading your own.

I have one .223 that can do that with factory ammo, and that only with Federal Gold Medal Match using a 69gr SMK bullet. That is not cheap.

Black Hills match ammo isn't bad either, but its more like .6 MOA in my good AR. That is cheaper than Federal Match.

A 1 MOA performer at 100 is not that hard to find. Black Hills makes a remanufactured 55gr Nosler ballistic tip load that does really well for me. This level with a really good AR is pretty much any major manufacturer's varmint ammo.
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Re: .223 ammo

Postby wildfan1 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:00 am

For the record...I am not EXPECTING those kinds of results. More HOPING. I guess to get right to the heart of the matter, I think I got a pretty decent/accurate rifle set up, now I just want to find good accurate ammo, so I can eliminate most variables and be pretty confident that what is holding back the real tight groups is me, and not the ammo or rifle. :mrgreen:
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Re: .223 ammo

Postby Erud on Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:43 am

Sub-MOA AR's are everywhere. Sub 1/3 MOA is a whole different story. The chances of your factory DPMS rifle with stock DPMS trigger and brand new shooter behind it shooting 1" groups at 300 is somewhere between slim and none.

As mentioned by others above, if you are not going to reload, FGMM and Black Hills will be 2 of your best options for accurate factory ammo. They won't be cheap, though.
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Postby promod1385 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:05 am

Been hearing a lot of good things about the Hornady Steel Match ammo, its very popular in the 3gun world and the price aint too bad compared to some other match ammo's.
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Postby 45Badger on Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:59 pm

What barrel twist does you gun have. I had (need a bangs head smiley!) a rem 700 with 1/12" twist that shot factory 55gr Hornady VMax at 5/8" at 200 yards. Current varmint fun is a 1/8" twist hvy barrel AR that LOVES 77 gr vmax.
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Re: .223 ammo

Postby grousemaster on Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:38 pm

Wolf Performance Ammunition, my rifles love it. Make sure you get the performance line.
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Re: .223 ammo

Postby solidgun on Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:38 pm

I have read some good reviews on Hornady Superformance Match ammos. Should be one of the best factory loads available.
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Re: .223 ammo

Postby yuppiejr on Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:58 pm

grousemaster wrote:Wolf Performance Ammunition, my rifles love it. Make sure you get the performance line.


Fleet Farm has this on sale for $4.29 a box if you can find it in stock ( the FMJ version only, not the boxes marked HP which look otherwise identical ). They also have the 420 round 30 caliber cans of Federal 62gr XM855 on strippers for $165... few cans on the shelf still in Blaine, nothing in Brooklyn Park.
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Re: .223 ammo

Postby grousemaster on Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:32 pm

yuppiejr wrote:
grousemaster wrote:Wolf Performance Ammunition, my rifles love it. Make sure you get the performance line.


Fleet Farm has this on sale for $4.29 a box if you can find it in stock ( the FMJ version only, not the boxes marked HP which look otherwise identical ). They also have the 420 round 30 caliber cans of Federal 62gr XM855 on strippers for $165... few cans on the shelf still in Blaine, nothing in Brooklyn Park.



The one week I don't go to Fleet Farm it's on sale. I'll be there tomorrow!!! Seriously though, Wolf is cheap ammo...but I've never had a failure with it and I like using it for close/medium range general plinking when I don't feel like chasing my brass down. The stuff is "hot" (haven't had it on a chrono) and ejects farther than any brass out of my rifles or pistols.
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Re: .223 ammo

Postby justinvan on Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:12 am

what does the box look like for this wolf performance? is it the red and black polyformance stuff? please don't clean out all of it from the carver fleet farm till I get there! :D
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Postby yuppiejr on Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:49 am

justinvan wrote:what does the box look like for this wolf performance? is it the red and black polyformance stuff? please don't clean out all of it from the carver fleet farm till I get there! :D


Yep, it's the black boxed "WPA Polyperformance" stuff... ONLY the FMJ variation is on sale, I found the shelf slot empty but noted a bunch had been mixed in with the not-on-sale HP variation one shelf slot over and scraped together 15 or so boxes. I haven't found occasion to shoot steel ammo but for blasting steel gongs with iron sights it's worth trying out for the price.
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Re: .223 ammo

Postby wildfan1 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:39 am

Did the Blaine FF have any left? Do the raincheck for ammo? I'm thinking no
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