Revenge of the Nerds part 5

[dtapper2]

So a buddy of mine will be loading some .25-06 for me in the next couple of weeks. I will be loading some rounds with Nosler ballistic silvertip 85gr and Barnes Triple Shock 115gr. I am not a reloader but am looking for some starting points or some basic load data that could get me started on a load for my rifle. The rifle is a standard 1:10 twist 22" bbl.

Thanks in advance.

[FJ540]

I get remarkable accuracy at 2900fps with 117 and 120gr bullets. Sierra game kings will make one ragged hole, you don't need the match kings either. IMR 4831 and retumbo both give me excellent consistency and very little recoil, but I think my barrel is 26" so your mileage may vary.


Edited correct IMR powder.

[Seismic Sam]

So a buddy of mine will be loading some .25-06 for me in the next couple of weeks. I will be loading some rounds with Nosler ballistic silvertip 85gr and Barnes Triple Shock 115gr. I am not a reloader but am looking for some starting points or some basic load data that could get me started on a load for my rifle. The rifle is a standard 1:10 twist 22" bbl.

Thanks in advance.

Gee, another guy who's going to let "a buddy" reload for him, and doesn't know about reloading himself!! The OP in this thread was a few mils away from being able to close the bolt on another round with a squib in his barrel, which WOULD have blown the gun all to hell, and could very well erased part of the right side of his head and his right hand. Ever see a person with a totally rebuilt skull with a 20% reduction in volume because that's all that was left to put back together?? Just had a new one like that as a client last week. Guess what?? You just made a decision that could make you the NEXT guy like that that shows up on my doorstep.

http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=42979

Oh, and think about this for a minute: If this guy is a skilled reloader that you literally trust with your life, why are YOU asking for starting loads for a 25-06 in here?? Are you telling me that your buddy doesn't have a shelf full of reloading manuals with data for the 25-06 in every one of them, and doesn't ALREADY have ALL the knowledge necessary to reload 25-06?? So does this mean you're going to be "your buddy's" crash test dummy for reloading 25-06 for the first time??

How much have you really thought this whole thing through??

[JTapper]

So a buddy of mine will be loading some .25-06 for me in the next couple of weeks. I will be loading some rounds with Nosler ballistic silvertip 85gr and Barnes Triple Shock 115gr. I am not a reloader but am looking for some starting points or some basic load data that could get me started on a load for my rifle. The rifle is a standard 1:10 twist 22" bbl.

Thanks in advance.

oh, and think about this for a minute: If this guy is a skilled reloader that you literally trust with your life, why are YOU asking for starting loads for a 25-06 in here?? Are you telling me that your buddy doesn't have a shelf full of reloading manuals with data for the 25-06 in every one of them, and doesn't ALREADY have ALL the knowledge necessary to reload 25-06?? So does this mean you're going to be "your buddy's" crash test dummy for reloading 25-06 for the first time??

How much have you really thought this whole thing through??

Way to be a jackass.

A little background so you may begin to understand how this is working. Our mutual friend is an experienced reloader with equipment and dies for this caliber. We're reloading .40 together as well. We supply the dies, primers, powder, brass, etc. We will be reloading WITH this person using his equipment. The goal here is to learn and experience reloading by working with someone who has been successfully reloading for decades. He has all the manuals and load data, but you missed the point the OP was trying to make. The manuals are a guideline, and people tailor those specs to meet their own desires for what they want in a load. He was simply asking for feedback from others onn loads they have used.

The goal is this. We will use their equipment and expertise to learn the reloading process. If we don't find interest, great. We're out the cost of supplies and a couple dies. If we really get into it, we're well on our way to start reloading on our own and have a great resource available to us.

Might help to know the story before you belittle someone for wanting to get into reloading. I don't know you, and you don't know me, but the way you come across isn't very inviting for someone looking to expand their firearm interests. Isn't that what forums like this are supposed to do?

[dtapper2]

Oh, and think about this for a minute: If this guy is a skilled reloader that you literally trust with your life, why are YOU asking for starting loads for a 25-06 in here?? Are you telling me that your buddy doesn't have a shelf full of reloading manuals with data for the 25-06 in every one of them, and doesn't ALREADY have ALL the knowledge necessary to reload 25-06?? So does this mean you're going to be "your buddy's" crash test dummy for reloading 25-06 for the first time??

How much have you really thought this whole thing through??

You truly are a special kind of @sshole, aren't you? Yet another reason why this forum is DYING. Trolls like you that think they know everything about everything always has some disrespectful comment to make. How about asking a few questions about the situation before telling me how crazed I am. After reading your response, I do believe that it is YOU that is crazed.

You are a complete and utter jerk to just about everyone on this forum. Why don't you do all of us a favor and go into your troll cave and smash your computer. You have finally landed on my ignore list. Good day, sir.

[infidel]

Oh, and think about this for a minute: If this guy is a skilled reloader that you literally trust with your life, why are YOU asking for starting loads for a 25-06 in here?? Are you telling me that your buddy doesn't have a shelf full of reloading manuals with data for the 25-06 in every one of them, and doesn't ALREADY have ALL the knowledge necessary to reload 25-06?? So does this mean you're going to be "your buddy's" crash test dummy for reloading 25-06 for the first time??

How much have you really thought this whole thing through??

You truly are a special kind of @sshole, aren't you? Yet another reason why this forum is DYING. Trolls like you that think they know everything about everything always has some disrespectful comment to make. How about asking a few questions about the situation before telling me how crazed I am. After reading your response, I do believe that it is YOU that is crazed.

You are a complete and utter jerk to just about everyone on this forum. Why don't you do all of us a favor and go into your troll cave and smash your computer. You have finally landed on my ignore list. Good day, sir.

Someone needs a vacation.

[infidel]

So a buddy of mine will be loading some .25-06 for me in the next couple of weeks. I will be loading some rounds with Nosler ballistic silvertip 85gr and Barnes Triple Shock 115gr. I am not a reloader but am looking for some starting points or some basic load data that could get me started on a load for my rifle. The rifle is a standard 1:10 twist 22" bbl.

Thanks in advance.

oh, and think about this for a minute: If this guy is a skilled reloader that you literally trust with your life, why are YOU asking for starting loads for a 25-06 in here?? Are you telling me that your buddy doesn't have a shelf full of reloading manuals with data for the 25-06 in every one of them, and doesn't ALREADY have ALL the knowledge necessary to reload 25-06?? So does this mean you're going to be "your buddy's" crash test dummy for reloading 25-06 for the first time??

How much have you really thought this whole thing through??

Way to be a jackass.

A little background so you may begin to understand how this is working. Our mutual friend is an experienced reloader with equipment and dies for this caliber. We're reloading .40 together as well. We supply the dies, primers, powder, brass, etc. We will be reloading WITH this person using his equipment. The goal here is to learn and experience reloading by working with someone who has been successfully reloading for decades. He has all the manuals and load data, but you missed the point the OP was trying to make. The manuals are a guideline, and people tailor those specs to meet their own desires for what they want in a load. He was simply asking for feedback from others onn loads they have used.

The goal is this. We will use their equipment and expertise to learn the reloading process. If we don't find interest, great. We're out the cost of supplies and a couple dies. If we really get into it, we're well on our way to start reloading on our own and have a great resource available to us.

Might help to know the story before you belittle someone for wanting to get into reloading. I don't know you, and you don't know me, but the way you come across isn't very inviting for someone looking to expand their firearm interests. Isn't that what forums like this are supposed to do?

Re-read the OP again, and then SS's response. Based on the information in the OP, SS responded appropriately. Your willingness to call people jack-asses, shows your lack of maturity. Your lack of reading comprehension makes me question how you will interpret loading manuals. I will be surprised if you don't blow yourselves up.

[JTapper]

Re-read the OP again, and then SS's response. Based on the information in the OP, SS responded appropriately. Your willingness to call people jack-asses, shows your lack of maturity. Your lack of reading comprehension makes me question how you will interpret loading manuals. I will be surprised if you don't blow yourselves up.

Appropriate response and legitimate concern are two completely different things. Only one of which SS had. I'll let you be the judge on that one.

Someone comes in an asks for feedback on loads people have used, and the general response seems to be "You don't know what the hell you're doing, you're going to blow yourself up!". SS sure seemed quick to assume that this was going to be two first time reloaders in their mother's basement playing with powder. I don't blame people for being put off around here as long as there are responses like his.

[dtapper2]

This just goes to show that a few bad guys can really bring down a whole group. Thanks to those of you that PM'd me offering to give some advise or words of wisdom.

There are some genuinely good people out there. Just not all in this thread...thanks again to those who responded positively.

[Seismic Sam]

So a buddy of mine will be loading some .25-06 for me in the next couple of weeks. I will be loading some rounds with Nosler ballistic silvertip 85gr and Barnes Triple Shock 115gr. I am not a reloader but am looking for some starting points or some basic load data that could get me started on a load for my rifle. The rifle is a standard 1:10 twist 22" bbl.

Thanks in advance.

Well, lets start off with the OP: Says he's not a reloader, and is "looking for some starting points or basic load data that could get me started." Note that he is NOT asking for optimized loads, or favorite loads in any way, shape, or form. He's asking for basic load data that you can get out of any load manual, and simply says his buddy is loading these up for him. Also missing is any info that they will be doing this together, and he will be watching every step along the way to learn, and that they have already loaded other stuff together. So it looks from a post from a n00b who doesn't have any reloading data himself, and is going to have a "good buddy" load this up for him.

So I ask some questions that I think are relevant, and point out how well that exact situation worked for qualcorp, and what the consequences can be, and that I see stuff like this all the time, and it's pretty unforgettable.

And finally, I ask the incredibly rude, obscene, and un-called for question: "

"How much have you really thought this whole thing through??"

Didn't even use the word "n00b" once, didn't use any effenheimers, or the words jerk, a**hole, or any of the other words that have since been said, and didn't even roll out the 800 pound reloading Troll schtick for the general amusement of the populace. Seeing as what NEARLY happened to qualcorp, and the fact that it looked like we could have a repeat of that exact same situation in the next week, I pretty much responded with the urgency and seriousness it deserved.

And last but not least, feel free to compare the way qualcorp responded to the way this response went.

The critical difference is that it very nearly happened to qualcorp, and he was mature enough to recognize the mistake he had made, and isn't in any state of denial that this couldn't, shouldn't, or wouldn't happen to him.

So what do we get in this case for input that was a lot less strong and specific that I hit qualcorp with?

Well, looks like righteous indignation and outright fury to me, and how dare ANYBODY question this person about knowledge or experience despite a meager first post that has a request for basic load data and that some other guy is doing the actual reloading?? Oh, boy am I an EFFEN GDMFSOB for asking about that in plain simple English with no profanity or pejorative terms whatsoever???

And as far as bringing this forum DOWN recently and making it less that it was, gee, I was here from the beginning week of this forum and have pretty much always talked the same talk and walked the same walk. God, I am such a jerk for being a charter member in here with 40 years of reloading experience and questioning some hithero unknown omnipotent and INFALLIBLE reloading God who was asking for basic 25-06 load data that can be found in any manual.

SIGH..... I just don't know how I'm going to live with myself after this...

Oh, and isn't outrage the last refuge of a scoundrel and the self righteous??

[highwarden]

Just curious. To the OP, have you tried buying a variety of quality ammunition and finding out what your rifle likes before you commit a large amount of time and money and someone elses lack of skill and concern to loading up some ammo for you? Unlike Sam who is really trying to keep you from hurting yourself, I could care less if you blow your self up. I just don't want anyone else getting hurt. AND whenever there is a case of suicidal stupidity there is always someone else getting hurt, usually Stupids family.

[aht_six]

My favorite .25-06 load is a 117 grain Hornady BTSP over RL22.

With my old 700 Classic, I get the best accuracy with 115-120 grain bullets. The 100 grain Ballistic Tips make a nice windy day varmint round, but I've never found a load for the 85 grain Ballistic tips that gave me what I would consider acceptable accuracy.

[infidel]

This just goes to show that a few bad guys can really bring down a whole group. Thanks to those of you that PM'd me offering to give some advise or words of wisdom.

There are some genuinely good people out there. Just not all in this thread...thanks again to those who responded positively.

I should let this go, but I cant. First of all you are a NOOB. You are also a NOOB at reloading. Your actions speak volumes. Do you always call people with more knowledge than you an @sshole? Grow the **** up. It is not the people who have been here for years that are ruining this forum. Look in the ******** mirror. You should put me on ignore also.

[Seismic Sam]

Hmm...... dtapper2 makes the initial post, and then JTapper backs him up like the wrath of God himself, in a very similar way. Family members?? A sock puppet?? Two sock puppets in a family??

Hey mods, identical IP's or something else look funny? No big deal, just curious...

[FJ540]

This just goes to show that a few bad guys can really bring down a whole group. Thanks to those of you that PM'd me offering to give some advise or words of wisdom.

There are some genuinely good people out there. Just not all in this thread...thanks again to those who responded positively.

I should let this go, but I cant. First of all you are a NOOB. You are also a NOOB at reloading. Your actions speak volumes. Do you always call people with more knowledge than you an @sshole? Grow the **** up. It is not the people who have been here for years that are ruining this forum. Look in the ******** mirror. You should put me on ignore also.

Someone who's been here 2 years is a noob?

He might not be a post whore like some folks, but I'm looking at the time in grade and having difficulty stripping rank for it.