Looking for someone to show me the ropes.

[Kokeba07]

So before I get flamed by Seismic Sam YES IM A NOOB AND I KNOW RELOADING IS DANGEROUS, that is why I am on here looking for someone to show me the ropes. With that being said I will now put my flamesuit on because I know Seismic cant resist him some noob bashing.
I am going to be getting my dad's setup it is a LEE press, when my parents move at the end of September and I am looking for someone who can show me the ropes of reloading. So i can do it safely and for many years to come. I am in the New Hope, Champlin area.

[Evad]

Reach out to oldmanfcha (something like that username..he is all over the reloading area) and travel to him in Wisconsin. He gets rave reviews, as does his dog.

[Seismic Sam]

So before I get flamed by Seismic Sam YES IM A NOOB AND I KNOW RELOADING IS DANGEROUS, that is why I am on here looking for someone to show me the ropes. With that being said I will now put my flamesuit on because I know Seismic cant resist him some noob bashing.
I am going to be getting my dad's setup it is a LEE press, when my parents move at the end of September and I am looking for someone who can show me the ropes of reloading. So i can do it safely and for many years to come. I am in the New Hope, Champlin area.

Well, you don't qualify for getting flamed!! You have already said that you know this is a potentially dangerous pastime, and you want some help learning stuff!!

So good for you, and I wish all n00bs came in with your attitude.

That being said, there is something you can do immediately, and that is buy a copy of Lyman #49 reloading manual and also Hornady #9 and start reading up on all the details and how to do it correctly. Yes, you need AT least two manuals, because they are all a bit different, and if you really get into this sport you can find yourself buying every new one that comes out to keep up on the new data, but don't worry about that for quite a while. In the meantime, RTFM!!

Welcome to the board!!

[rottenit]

Get ahold of oldman.. well worth it!!

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[Duff-Man]

Sam, why do you recommend  Lyman #49 reloading? What is different in it from the Hornady?

[Seismic Sam]

Sam, why do you recommend  Lyman #49 reloading? What is different in it from the Hornady?

Two distinct points of view. PLUS Lyman is THE cast bullet authority for handloading, so they have data that will be applicable to Berry's and Ranier plated bullets. Also longest history, with current issue being #49. Speer is next with 14 editions.

EDIT: The Lyman tang sight was invented in 1879, so they have been around 134 years.

[Duff-Man]

Sam, why do you recommend  Lyman #49 reloading? What is different in it from the Hornady?

Two distinct points of view. PLUS Lyman is THE cast bullet authority for handloading, so they have data that will be applicable to Berry's and Ranier plated bullets. Also longest history, with current issue being #49. Speer is next with 14 editions.

EDIT: The Lyman tang sight was invented in 1879, so they have been around 134 years.

guess I know what I'll be getting soon.

[BigDog58]

I found the book "The ABC's of Hand Loading" quite informative. I read it, and several other books, and watched EVERY Reloading Video I could locate on YouTube. I then took OldmanFCSA's Class. It is well worth taking his class.

He has been ill and if he isn't up to it at the moment, I'll lend a hand amd show you the Basics, with just enough to get you going Safely. Then, when OldmanFCSA (Doug) is feeling better, you setup an appointment woth him, for more specific Advanced Reloading. I have helped other new loaders at Dougs request.

I suggest you contact him first, and let him know I'll help out, if he isn't physically up to getting you started just yet. PM him first, and see how he wishes to proceed. You can also PM me and I'll send you my home number and I can call Doug and see how he wants to go forward, if you are interested in getting hand on instructions.

Jim




Jim

[Seismic Sam]

Sam, why do you recommend  Lyman #49 reloading? What is different in it from the Hornady?

Two distinct points of view. PLUS Lyman is THE cast bullet authority for handloading, so they have data that will be applicable to Berry's and Ranier plated bullets. Also longest history, with current issue being #49. Speer is next with 14 editions.

EDIT: The Lyman tang sight was invented in 1879, so they have been around 134 years.

guess I know what I'll be getting soon.

Actually, if you ONLY load pistol, you should NOT get #49. There is a separate Lyman pistol reloading manual (3rd Edition these days) that covers only pistol calibers, with all the cast bullets Lyman offers, which is a bunch, plus jacketed loads.

[Kokeba07]

So the general consensus so far sounds like Oldman is the way to go.

[Duff-Man]

So the general consensus so far sounds like Oldman is the way to go.

I didn't take his class, but I made my share of beginner mistakes (there should be a thread about over crimping .223 rounds).

[Seismic Sam]

So the general consensus so far sounds like Oldman is the way to go.

I didn't take his class, but I made my share of beginner mistakes (there should be a thread about over crimping .223 rounds).

Yeah!! Your .223 rounds looked like the top of Kokeba07's head!!

[grousemaster]

Is the Lee modern reloading book any good?

[ex-LT]

Is the Lee modern reloading book any good?

I think "The ABCs of Reloading" and Lyman #48 are preferable to "Lee's Modern Reloading", but if you can filter the wheat (valid reloading advice, steps, etc) from the chaff (shameless plugs by Richard Lee touting the superiority of his equipment as compared to unnamed competitors), yes it's a good book.

[Seismic Sam]

While I dearly love some of Richard Lee's inventions like the Autoprime and Factory Crimp die, I am not a fan of his reloading book. My primary complaint is clutter and data density, and also some disconnects and missing data that really leave you in Left Field somewhat.

So here's some data for a 200 grain lead bullet for the 45 ACP:



First problem: It only identifies the weight and lead or jacketed type with no other information. No idea if this is a Lyman cast bullet, Red River or any other brand, or if it's a round nose, hollowpoint, or semi-wadcutter.

Second problem: Across the top you have powder type, min load weight in grains, the volume in .01 cc of that min load, the disc type if you're using a Lee disc measure, and the Dipper number for the Lee Dippers.

Then you have the max load never to exceed, the velocity of the bullet, the pressure, the units of pressure (CUP or PSI) and minimum OAL.

Okay, the minimum weight in grains is fine. the cc volume is an engraved invitation to something bad, as the Lee perfect powder measure is calibrated in .01cc's of volume, so you could very well dial up that volume on the measure, use that powder, and figure you never would need to weigh the powder. There was a guy at Gunstop who wanted to do just this, had his heart set on it, and John had to REALLY raise his voice and tell him that he wasn't buying anything in there unless he actually got a scale. The disc is fine for what it is, until you get into double disk layers, and the same for dippers. The other stuff is pretty standard, but the last column is a real Rubick's cube of a spec. OAL's are to a large part determined by nose type, with hollowpoints being shorter than Round noses, semi-wadcutters being even shorter than that, and full wadcutters being the shortest of all. So how can you state what the minimum OAL is without having a clue as to the bullet type??

Add to that that this is just PART of the 200 grain lead bullet listing, and there are no less than 25 powders listed for whatever lead bullet this is. 25?? Thanks, but give me a manual with the best 6 - 8 powders any day of the week.

Oh, and for the 25-06, there is separate data for 115 and 117 grain jacketed bullets. No clue as to brand or nose type or partition or solid or HP, but there's data here for bullets that weigh two grains different.

So I have the book as a reference, but 350 solid pages of numerical tables this dense just make your head hurt to look at it.