Max loads....

[Stradawhovious]

Anyone have an idea about what the max load for .45 acp 200gr SWC, using Bullseye powder might be? I have the Speer manual, it specifies 4.6gr max, but stipulates that these do not approach max load, and are only specified for target loads. I'm not trying to be a macho man here, I'm generally pushing minimums (4.2 gr), but curiosity for numbers has gotten the better of me.

[DeanC]

Try here

[macphisto]

In general, you can safely use FMJ/HP data for the same bullet weight. The lighter loads are to prevent barrel leading.

Alliant's site (and Speer, they copied the load) specifies 5.8gr of Bullseye for a 200gr HP to achieve 934fps.

I've done this with my 45 loads, except I'm using Unique. The max load for lead is 5.4gr for 790fps. Max for the 200gr HP is 7.3gr for 984fps. Since I don't have a chronograph, I'm using 7.0gr to make sure I meet IDPA power factor (and make my action cycle properly ).

[DeanC]

I went down to my reloading room to check my manuals but I don't even want to reprint what is in the Hornady manual it seems so hot. It starts at 4.6 gr for a 200gr LSWC.

[Einthoven's Triangle]

You have to realize that both Hornady and Speer provides swaged bullets not cast bullets for which their data is based upon. You might want to look the Lyman 49th for cast lead data and the Alliant web site for help.. Swaged bullets are way softer then cast lead. So, be wise to check you data sources.....

[Pinnacle]

Take this with a grain of NACL

In all of my years of reloading (20+) I am still learning and I am NOT trying to be an ass here - but there are LOTS of good and free resources of data out there that you can get. This X-Mas ask for all of the reloading books that have been printed. Speer/Hornady/Lyman and go to Gunstop and get all of the freebies from the powder manufacturers.... (hodgdon is best for noob reloaders as the data is NOT bullet specific as they list loads that yield highest pressures of any bullet that they have done research on - neat huh?)

If you shoot a lot of cast bullets you WILL lead your bbl a tad.... The best way to get that out is to shoot a couple of FMJ's During and after your session to clean it out. Simple huh?

[Einthoven's Triangle]

Sorry but shooting FMJ bullets after lead bullets does not remove lead! It smears it! Mechanically there is no way that shooting a bullet will remove lead. Just like shooting naked bullets after shooting moly coated just provides a layered effect. Copper Moly Copper.......not a good deal.

The Hodgdon data is very specific with respect to which brass was used, the bullet used, and the primer used! Not that generic. Broad statements like that can be dangerous.......
Take the case of the 308 win. The data uses WW brass and should you use the data with cautiion especially with rifles! Using Hodgdon data in Fed cases could be bad banana.

The best way to remove lead is Lewis Lead Remover or geting copper ChoreBoy and wrap it around a used bore brush. Or better yet realize that lead bullets for the most part have limits as how fast the load can be pushed.

The problem with so many new reloaders is that they are cheap rat bastards!.. Gosh darn guys invest in your safety!

[Stradawhovious]

The problem with so many new reloaders is that they are cheap rat bastards!.. Gosh darn guys invest in your safety!

Watch it. Blanket insults are a surefire way to make yourself look like an ass. I have utmost concerns about my safety, and asked a simple question. Please don't insinuate that I'd rather save a buck than keep an eye on my personal safety.

[Pinnacle]

Sorry but shooting FMJ bullets after lead bullets does not remove lead! It smears it! Mechanically there is no way that shooting a bullet will remove lead. Just like shooting naked bullets after shooting moly coated just provides a layered effect. Copper Moly Copper.......not a good deal.

The Hodgdon data is very specific with respect to which brass was used, the bullet used, and the primer used! Not that generic. Broad statements like that can be dangerous.......
Take the case of the 308 win. The data uses WW brass and should you use the data with cautiion especially with rifles! Using Hodgdon data in Fed cases could be bad banana.

The best way to remove lead is Lewis Lead Remover or geting copper ChoreBoy and wrap it around a used bore brush. Or better yet realize that lead bullets for the most part have limits as how fast the load can be pushed.

The problem with so many new reloaders is that they are cheap rat bastards!.. Gosh darn guys invest in your safety!

Exactly - I just stated it incorrectly ET - the max load listed is the COMBINATION that yielded the highest pressures.

No load data is truly generic - but with experience you will learn when to say when. Rarely will you ever find data at max that Is dangerous unless you exceed oalwith certain types of bullets, or another oops.that is why when you start with a new combination of components you reduce by XX percent and work up slowly in XX increments.

Molly and copper are 2 very different things. You will never remove all of everything using just one method - shooting a jacketed bullet after lead certainly does remove MOST of the residual to an acceptable level. (What I meant to say)

[selurcspi]

The problem with so many new reloaders is that they are cheap rat bastards!.. Gosh darn guys invest in your safety!

Watch it. Blanket insults are a surefire way to make yourself look like an ass. I have utmost concerns about my safety, and asked a simple question. Please don't insinuate that I'd rather save a buck than keep an eye on my personal safety.

That's why they call you Three Fingers, right

[Stradawhovious]

That's why they call you Three Fingers, right

That's CAPTAIN three fingers to you buddy.

[1911fan]

That's why they call you Three Fingers, right

That's CAPTAIN three fingers to you buddy.

AND that is why you are the Stradaweiner!

[Stradawhovious]

That's why they call you Three Fingers, right

That's CAPTAIN three fingers to you buddy.

AND that is why you are the Stradaweiner!

Stradaweiner eh? Has a sort of ring to it......

[macphisto]

Hey, I want a custom title! Your choice...

[Stradawhovious]

Hey, I want a custom title! Your choice...

Yeah, cute ain't it?