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Blackout powder for supers?

Postby silverado chevy on Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:26 am

I'm going to start packing up some blackouts pretty soon and I wanted to hear some input from people with experience. Looking for something that will work for 120-150 grain supers. I've read h110 is a good choice but I see that the cfe blk is coming out soon not sure if I should wait or grab a jug of the h110 and just go for it.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby photogpat on Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:43 am

Copper fouling is not an issue at the velocities of 300blk

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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby Scratch on Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:00 am

+1 for H110
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby Seismic Sam on Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:07 am

BTW Silverado:

Not sure if you know this or not, but H110 and 296 are THE SAME powder. Just sold by two different companies. Also, reducing loads for H110/296 is a VERY BAD IDEA....

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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby silverado chevy on Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:13 am

Ya I read something about that already, not getting enough boom boom to get outta the pipe thank you for the heads up anyhow.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby FJ540 on Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:44 am

H110 is good to go for those weights and 155 SMK's too.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby JJ on Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:32 am

I'm running H110 now, and have run N110 and lilgun in the past.

N110 is by far my favorite, it shoots much cleaner than other options, but its cost prohibitive for large run IMO.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby LarryFlew on Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:25 pm

H110 for 300 also and my goto for 44 mag.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby Seismic Sam on Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:59 pm

And from the Speer #13 manual, which I just grabbed at random:

44 magnum, 240 grain JHP:

H110 MAX load: 24.0 grains
H110 MIN load : 22.0 grains

While it's obvious that there is danger above the max load with most ANY cartridge do to overpressure, the catastrophic DETONATION of a slightly reduced H110 load is far more likely to blow a 44mag pistol completely to bits.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby goalie on Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:55 pm

Win 296 for me. I had a ton of it (well > 8 pounds) for 44mag when I got my 300BO bolt gun, so it was a no-brainer.

Like said above, RTFM, as reduced loads with Win296/H110 is a good way to get a BOOM instead of a BANG.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby LarryFlew on Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:04 pm

Seismic Sam wrote:And from the Speer #13 manual, which I just grabbed at random:

44 magnum, 240 grain JHP:

H110 MAX load: 24.0 grains
H110 MIN load : 22.0 grains

While it's obvious that there is danger above the max load with most ANY cartridge do to overpressure, the catastrophic DETONATION of a slightly reduced H110 load is far more likely to blow a 44mag pistol completely to bits.


Accuracy wise my revolver likes 23 while my Desert Eagle likes 24. Since I don't shoot the DE for accuracy they both get 23 with 240 XTPs.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby Seismic Sam on Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:04 am

Interesting fact: Both the creator of the Desert Eagle and the Coonan lived in the TC Metro. Both guns do beast/best running wide open, so as a handloader my DE was a bit of a disappointment, because you just use the max load of H110/296 and be done with it. For the .50 that's 32.5 grains under a 325 JHP.

From a historical perspective, H110 was specifically created for the 30M1 carbine round used in WWII. Basically, (and NOT actually, but pretty damn close!) you fill up a 30M1 case with H110 and smush the bullet down on top of it.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby Dill on Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:11 am

another that uses H110/296 with good success.
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby BigDog58 on Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:35 am

Seismic Sam wrote:Interesting fact: Both the creator of the Desert Eagle and the Coonan lived in the TC Metro. Both guns do beast/best running wide open, so as a handloader my DE was a bit of a disappointment, because you just use the max load of H110/296 and be done with it. For the .50 that's 32.5 grains under a 325 JHP.

From a historical perspective, H110 was specifically created for the 30M1 carbine round used in WWII. Basically, (and NOT actually, but pretty damn close!) you fill up a 30M1 case with H110 and smush the bullet down on top of it.


I have had better results and performance using Lil-Gun for my 30 Carbine loads pushing a 110gr projectile. Extremely accurate out to 50 yards (furthest I shot it)
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Re: Blackout powder for supers?

Postby OldmanFCSA on Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:52 pm

Another user of WIN296 for all my Magnum revolver loads, 357 & 44 now days.

An 8 pound jug doesn't last very long pounding 296 and Hornady 140 grain XTP's thru the Dillon setup for 357Magnum. My daughter loaded 2200 rounds in one sitting at Christmas last year. This year she wants 44Magnum ammo, not near as many components available. But will have her load 44 Special loads for her purse gun in her spare time.

My daughter has the dexterity of hands that I can't match, resulting in getting much more loading done.

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