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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby Rem700 on Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:15 pm

Hobotorium wrote:
Rem700 wrote:Dont know about all of them but the ones I have visited have a sign that basically says no hunting of unprotected species from March 1- Aug something. Which as far as I know the coyote is considered a unprotected species.

Well, I don't know how good the hunting would be but even if it's summer couldn't you still hunt coyotes at a state forest assuming hunting is permitted there?


Yes you could.
If your the type that keeps fur there not at there prime dureing the summer.
Usually prey is more abundant so not as likely to come in.
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby nyffman on Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:54 am

Found this in the Pioneer Press today.

Senate approves coyote bounties

Minnesota counties and townships could offer bounties for coyotes under a bill that received final approval Mon­day in the state Senate.

The Senate voted 47-18 for the legislation offered by Sen. Gary Kubly, DFL-Granite Falls. A House companion bill spon­sored by Rep. Lyle Koenen, DFL-Clara City, is still in com­mittee.

This is the first time the measure, offered in recent years as a way to cut into a growing coyote population, has passed either body.

The Department of Natural Resources hasn’t taken a posi­tion on the legislation, but it considers bounties to be an ineffective wildlife manage­ment approach. Bounties for coyotes were last allowed in Minnesota in 1965.

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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby EJSG19 on Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:12 pm

nyffman wrote:Found this in the Pioneer Press today.

Senate approves coyote bounties

Minnesota counties and townships could offer bounties for coyotes under a bill that received final approval Mon­day in the state Senate.

The Senate voted 47-18 for the legislation offered by Sen. Gary Kubly, DFL-Granite Falls. A House companion bill spon­sored by Rep. Lyle Koenen, DFL-Clara City, is still in com­mittee.

This is the first time the measure, offered in recent years as a way to cut into a growing coyote population, has passed either body.

The Department of Natural Resources hasn’t taken a posi­tion on the legislation, but it considers bounties to be an ineffective wildlife manage­ment approach. Bounties for coyotes were last allowed in Minnesota in 1965.

— Dennis Lien



If that would cover the cost of the hunt, Minus the cost of the gun I suppose, I'd consider that a pretty fair deal.
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby JJ on Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:00 pm

Bounties don't help population control for coyotes. Do a little research and the reality is, the popultion will expand faster than you can shoot them. In a yote pack only the alpha male and female reproduce. Remove an alpha and the whole dag pack reproduces the next year. There's some great studies available on http://www.predatormasters.com in the forums under predator biology.
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby farmerj on Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:04 pm

my uncle has been snaring and trapping yotes on the farm here for several years now. He started to get about 45-55 per year for the first couple and then it fell off to about half that.

The surrounding farmers though noticed a pick up in tracks and sign. So they just stopped going to the areas where they were being taken. Moved the snares and traps from year to year and the numbers became more consistent at around 40-45 each year.

So they are a VERY intelligent quarry.
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby forcefed on Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:47 pm

Not that this has a whole lot to do with what was said on this page, but I would like to find a good spot to go shoot some yotes, whether there is a bounty or not on them.
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby farmerj on Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:52 pm

forcefed wrote:Not that this has a whole lot to do with what was said on this page, but I would like to find a good spot to go shoot some yotes, whether there is a bounty or not on them.



Don't plan on too much shooting of em the rest of the summer.

I am looking to get out more for prairie dogs or service rifle for the summer now. Come Nov-Dec I will be looking for yotes more.
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby forcefed on Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:02 pm

Yeah... I hear ya there. Ok then, how bout a good place to go prairie dog hunting :P

I have not done much of either type of hunting with larger caliber guns (I shot a ton of gophers in Montana with my Red Ryder)
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby Jackpine Savage on Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:02 pm

JJH wrote:Bounties don't help population control for coyotes. Do a little research and the reality is, the popultion will expand faster than you can shoot them. In a yote pack only the alpha male and female reproduce. Remove an alpha and the whole dag pack reproduces the next year. There's some great studies available on http://www.predatormasters.com in the forums under predator biology.


I've read that too but I'm not sure I believe it. Bounties did a pretty good job of wiping out the timber wolf back in the day. I think the biologists don't care for bounties and their studies are probably skewed.
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby Dick Unger on Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:52 am

Jackpine Savage wrote:
JJH wrote:Bounties don't help population control for coyotes. Do a little research and the reality is, the popultion will expand faster than you can shoot them. In a yote pack only the alpha male and female reproduce. Remove an alpha and the whole dag pack reproduces the next year. There's some great studies available on http://www.predatormasters.com in the forums under predator biology.


I've read that too but I'm not sure I believe it. Bounties did a pretty good job of wiping out the timber wolf back in the day. I think the biologists don't care for bounties and their studies are probably skewed.

What got rid of wolves, lions and coyotes was poison, not hunting. The entire west was poisoned by air drops until the local ranchers were satisfied.

Coyotes are beneficial, they control the smaller predators, coons, skunks, feral cats, if you like ground nesting birds you want some coyotes.

Kubly's territory (where I live) has a bit too many coyotes this year, which nature will balance. The bounties will cost $25,000 a year, and people will collect on road kills and coyotes from neighboring counties. I'm not opposed biologically, it's a waste of money though. Just another farm subsidy.
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby Dick Unger on Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:57 am

I am concerned about giving counties or townships control over animal populations and outdoor activities. That's why we have the DNR. Rural counties are small, and controlled by people with local agendas. Some of them hate trapping, shooting sports, ATVs, snowmobiles, lots of stuff. Farmers don't like anything that may eat their crops, like deer and turkeys, ducks and geese. They don't like wildlife areas and think there is too much public land. I'd rather have a state wide DNR making consistant rules.

IThis bill opens the door to nonsense. (Sorry Gary.) The DNR won't expend the political capital to oppose it so it will pass.
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Re: Coyote anyone?

Postby EJSG19 on Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:52 am

Dick Unger wrote:I am concerned about giving counties or townships control over animal populations and outdoor activities. That's why we have the DNR. Rural counties are small, and controlled by people with local agendas. Some of them hate trapping, shooting sports, ATVs, snowmobiles, lots of stuff. Farmers don't like anything that may eat their crops, like deer and turkeys, ducks and geese. They don't like wildlife areas and think there is too much public land. I'd rather have a state wide DNR making consistant rules.

IThis bill opens the door to nonsense. (Sorry Gary.) The DNR won't expend the political capital to oppose it so it will pass.


The above makes a lot of assumptions. I know tons of farmers around us in Iowa who are the polar opposite of what you describe. Some all but live for hunting, and conservation of natural resources (wildlife, habitat, etc.). Many farmers purposely won't harvest a certain amount of their crop each year for the sole purpose of leaving food for the animals in the winter.

I get tired of people putting all farmers under the same label, personally. They aren't all money grubbing tyrants.
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