Exposing the wolf reintroduction to Yellowstone

[DeanC]

A documentary: http://cryingwolfmovie.com/

[45usp45]

Thanks.

[grousemaster]

A documentary: http://cryingwolfmovie.com/

Interesting film

[LarryFlew]

A documentary: http://cryingwolfmovie.com/

Interesting film

+ big one

[LongRange]

I smell agenda, half the animals shown to be killed by wolves in that movie were in fact killed by Mountain lions, cats are known for attacking to the rear quarters, watch any african lion. If you can convince me that the 3000 timber wolves in America across 9 states is responsible for heard elimination, then exlain why my wolf (yes, real wolf not hybrid, raised from birth) plays with the deer in my yard and they play back, if the deer feared wolves from experiences in the wild they would run like hell not lay down beside him.

[cobb]

....then exlain why my wolf (yes, real wolf not hybrid, raised from birth) plays with the deer in my yard and they play back, if the deer feared wolves from experiences in the wild they would run like hell not lay down beside him.

You mean like wife's aunt in Wisconsin that had a whitetail doe that she raised and it stayed around their farm. Then for several years when it had fawns it would allow her to handle them and even bring them in the house for my kids to pet, play with and pose for pictures. Yes we have a few pictures from years passes, no BS. So deer played and posed for pictures with my son many years ago, but years later when he was hunting deer they would run like hell from him, why???

[LongRange]

two totally different things, first u are saying taming of a deer so it doesnt fear humans is the same as taming a wolf and the deer wont fear it? cmon, tell me thats not your comparison please. Kinda BassAckwards aint ya?

[cobb]

two totally different things, first u are saying taming of a deer so it doesnt fear humans is the same as taming a wolf and the deer wont fear it? cmon, tell me thats not your comparison please. Kinda BassAckwards aint ya?

Nope, as much validity as your skewed example.

[Heffay]

I like wolves. Predators are a part of nature too. Let them be.

[bensdad]

I like wolves. Predators are a part of nature too. Let them be.

Sure. Let them be... hunted. They're part of nature after all.

[Holland&Holland]

I smell agenda, half the animals shown to be killed by wolves in that movie were in fact killed by Mountain lions, cats are known for attacking to the rear quarters, watch any african lion. If you can convince me that the 3000 timber wolves in America across 9 states is responsible for heard elimination, then exlain why my wolf (yes, real wolf not hybrid, raised from birth) plays with the deer in my yard and they play back, if the deer feared wolves from experiences in the wild they would run like hell not lay down beside him.

Um, where do you get your facts? According to the MN DNR we have 2921 wolves in MN right now so that means that accross the other 8 states there are only 79 so I agree with you then that 79 wolves should not present much of a problem. In MN however you may have seen what your 1 domesticated wolf does but if you have spent anytime in the North woods you would know that wolves have had an affect on deer populations. Now, do not get me wrong I am not for the elimination of wolves, just feel we should control them and manage them with hunting like we do other game. If you want them to be successful long term, let them become a prized game animal and you will see them here for a long time.

[rukwikenuf]

If you want them to be successful long term, let them become a prized game animal and you will see them here for a long time.

as screwed up as that sounds, it's quite true! look at the N American Buffalo, or Bison, or whatever you wanna call it. settlers drove it to the verge of extinction, activists have brought the population back up, and hunters have kept it in check

[Pred]

I smell agenda, half the animals shown to be killed by wolves in that movie were in fact killed by Mountain lions, cats are known for attacking to the rear quarters, watch any african lion. If you can convince me that the 3000 timber wolves in America across 9 states is responsible for heard elimination, then exlain why my wolf (yes, real wolf not hybrid, raised from birth) plays with the deer in my yard and they play back, if the deer feared wolves from experiences in the wild they would run like hell not lay down beside him.

Um, where do you get your facts? According to the MN DNR we have 2921 wolves in MN right now so that means that accross the other 8 states there are only 79 so I agree with you then that 79 wolves should not present much of a problem. In MN however you may have seen what your 1 domesticated wolf does but if you have spent anytime in the North woods you would know that wolves have had an affect on deer populations. Now, do not get me wrong I am not for the elimination of wolves, just feel we should control them and manage them with hunting like we do other game. If you want them to be successful long term, let them become a prized game animal and you will see them here for a long time.

You beat me to it H&H! I was going to point out the same thing that there are 3,000 wolves in Minneosta alone. It bugs me when people post stuff and can't even get the facts straight.
http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildl ... survey.pdf

[Heffay]

If you want them to be successful long term, let them become a prized game animal and you will see them here for a long time.

as screwed up as that sounds, it's quite true! look at the N American Buffalo, or Bison, or whatever you wanna call it. settlers drove it to the verge of extinction, activists have brought the population back up, and hunters have kept it in check

This seems reasonable to me.

[DeanC]

If you want them to be successful long term, let them become a prized game animal and you will see them here for a long time.

as screwed up as that sounds, it's quite true! look at the N American Buffalo, or Bison, or whatever you wanna call it. settlers drove it to the verge of extinction, activists have brought the population back up, and hunters have kept it in check

This seems reasonable to me.

It's true with elephants in Africa. Those countries that allow hunting have far more elephants than those with a complete moratorium.