Exposing the wolf reintroduction to Yellowstone

[LongRange]

Wait so now everyone wants to believe the MN dept of wildlife???? cmon really? have you ever seen their deer heard numbers? Why is it everyones not taking a B&C record every year in their front yard? If you notice my numbers are of timberwolves, In Mn these are cross of Grey/Timber which accounts for their size, Either way you slice it my numbers are accurate and I stand by my original post.

What I find rediculous is that anyone would believe there are 3000 wolves in MN, I mean hell the MN Wildlife says there are about 5000 Bald Eagles and a short ride from Gr to Bemidji you can see 20 any given sunday, funny thing is, Not a single Wolf. Spare me the 3000 BS.

[Squib Joe]

Wolves are very good at not being seen, nothing like bald eagles.

Open up a season on wolves, make the tags expensive and limited, and funnel the income into deer management.

[JeremiahMN]

I must have missed some meetings,I didn't realize that us socialists were really going to use wolves to destroy America. Genius plan, wish I would have had the heads up all along.

[ex-LT]

Wait so now everyone wants to believe the MN dept of wildlife???? cmon really? have you ever seen their deer heard numbers? Why is it everyones not taking a B&C record every year in their front yard? If you notice my numbers are of timberwolves, In Mn these are cross of Grey/Timber which accounts for their size, Either way you slice it my numbers are accurate and I stand by my original post.

What I find rediculous is that anyone would believe there are 3000 wolves in MN, I mean hell the MN Wildlife says there are about 5000 Bald Eagles and a short ride from Gr to Bemidji you can see 20 any given sunday, funny thing is, Not a single Wolf. Spare me the 3000 BS.

Funny thing, even though people like you claim that the Timber/Grey wolf numbers are overstated, the guys in my hunting party seem to be seeing more and more every year. Walking through the woods, it's almost impossible not to find signs of where packs have gone through. Three years ago, my brother saw a pack of 10 on opening morning. Two and a half years ago, walking from my parents' house to check the mail, my girlfriend and I saw tracks in the middle of the road - prints larger than any dog track I've ever seen. The last two winters, I've seen 'em while out snowmobiling. Like Squib Joe said, they're VERY good at not being seen. They're out there, you're either not looking for them, or you're in denial.

[Pred]

If you notice my numbers are of timberwolves, In Mn these are cross of Grey/Timber which accounts for their size, Either way you slice it my numbers are accurate and I stand by my original post.

So you are telling me that the Grey and Timber wolves are of a different species, or sub-species, or whatever the terminolgy is? I always thought they were the same animal. Checking a few different links on the internet shows I'm right so far. Can you point me to where you are getting your information?

[Dick Unger]

Wolves are here, now, and it's wonderful. Naturally there will be periods of over population, just as with deer, as animals make adjustments. Deer and other aminals are afraid when they have to be afraid.

Canada geese are afraid of you during hunting season in hunting areas. At Lac Quie Parle you can walk among these geese inside the refuge, the same geese, on the same day, will stay just out of shotgun range a hundred yards away from you outside the refuge.

Same with deer. In a big park, you can walk up to within bow range of deer. In the Dakots, they run or hide when a pickup slows down. Animals size up the situation, they are cautious but excercise good judgement, somehow. Someone obseving humans at the mall would observe they are unafraid of each other, but in a dark alley it's different. We know a hunting dog from a wolf. Wild animals are smart. Even fish are aware of their surroundings. and will flee from a fisherman on the shore.

Unfortunately people who live in beautiful surrondings don't value any of it. We've given hereditary graising rights to beautiful areas for almost nothing, and the recipients of the graising rights want to exclude the rest of us from enjoying our public lands. hence "documentaries" by guys like this.

[traveler]

Yah, **** them free-grazers.

http://youtu.be/5uFarFM9sow

[LongRange]

Wait so now everyone wants to believe the MN dept of wildlife???? cmon really? have you ever seen their deer heard numbers? Why is it everyones not taking a B&C record every year in their front yard? If you notice my numbers are of timberwolves, In Mn these are cross of Grey/Timber which accounts for their size, Either way you slice it my numbers are accurate and I stand by my original post.

What I find rediculous is that anyone would believe there are 3000 wolves in MN, I mean hell the MN Wildlife says there are about 5000 Bald Eagles and a short ride from Gr to Bemidji you can see 20 any given sunday, funny thing is, Not a single Wolf. Spare me the 3000 BS.

Funny thing, even though people like you claim that the Timber/Grey wolf numbers are overstated, the guys in my hunting party seem to be seeing more and more every year. Walking through the woods, it's almost impossible not to find signs of where packs have gone through. Three years ago, my brother saw a pack of 10 on opening morning. Two and a half years ago, walking from my parents' house to check the mail, my girlfriend and I saw tracks in the middle of the road - prints larger than any dog track I've ever seen. The last two winters, I've seen 'em while out snowmobiling. Like Squib Joe said, they're VERY good at not being seen. They're out there, you're either not looking for them, or you're in denial.

I think you and your buds need a lesson in the difference between a Yote and a Wolf. Stray dogs also often end up in packs which could explain your "tracks" issue. If they are so rampant then we all await your photos of these massive packs you say are so easy to find.... waiting....

[Thunder71]

I've seen and photographed a wolf down here near Mantorville. BIG thing it was... Was alone, though I'm sure others had to be in the area.

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[ex-LT]

Wait so now everyone wants to believe the MN dept of wildlife???? cmon really? have you ever seen their deer heard numbers? Why is it everyones not taking a B&C record every year in their front yard? If you notice my numbers are of timberwolves, In Mn these are cross of Grey/Timber which accounts for their size, Either way you slice it my numbers are accurate and I stand by my original post.

What I find rediculous is that anyone would believe there are 3000 wolves in MN, I mean hell the MN Wildlife says there are about 5000 Bald Eagles and a short ride from Gr to Bemidji you can see 20 any given sunday, funny thing is, Not a single Wolf. Spare me the 3000 BS.

Funny thing, even though people like you claim that the Timber/Grey wolf numbers are overstated, the guys in my hunting party seem to be seeing more and more every year. Walking through the woods, it's almost impossible not to find signs of where packs have gone through. Three years ago, my brother saw a pack of 10 on opening morning. Two and a half years ago, walking from my parents' house to check the mail, my girlfriend and I saw tracks in the middle of the road - prints larger than any dog track I've ever seen. The last two winters, I've seen 'em while out snowmobiling. Like Squib Joe said, they're VERY good at not being seen. They're out there, you're either not looking for them, or you're in denial.

I think you and your buds need a lesson in the difference between a Yote and a Wolf. Stray dogs also often end up in packs which could explain your "tracks" issue. If they are so rampant then we all await your photos of these massive packs you say are so easy to find.... waiting....

You honestly think we don't know the difference between a coyote and a wolf? Don't make me laugh. As for the tracks, with the exception of mastiffs, Great Pyrenees, and St. Bernard, I have yet to see a dog with paws as large as the palm of my hand. Pictures aren't gonna happen. When my cousins and I are on our stands, we're there to HUNT, not take pictures.

PS: I'd invite you to come hunting with us some time so I could prove my point, but ours is family only.

[OldmanFCSA]

When I had my farm, I had several Guard Animals, a Guard Llama, and a Guard Anotolian Shepard dog (which are bred in country of Turkey for killing wolves) that were a great protector of my herds, flocks, and kids.

We had a Lone Wolf in the area that the DNR had collared, and was normally not a problem as he stayed about a mile from my livestock area. But whenever I contacted the DNR, I was told there were "no wolves in this area".

One day the dog came home really tore up, but dragging that wolf, which he had killed. It was a characteristic of the breed to bring the kill to the master. The battle occurred within one of my livestock fenced areas.

When the collar transmitted the wolf was dead, stationary, the DNR showed up asking where the wolf was, I told them there was "no wolves in the area" repeating what they told me. Then, under duress, showed them the Wolf remains, and the Vet bill for patching up my Guard Dog. They demanded I destroy the Guard Dog that killed the protected wolf. I demanded they leave my property and not come back until they could speak truthfully. "Someone" finally shot my Guard Dog while it was in the field protecting my wife's sheep flock. Guess who showed up the next day??? After that, many wolves died of lead poisoning, many farm animals were killed by wolves and bear, and many more wolves and bear died accidentally. S-S-S KEPT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSY.

After leaving the area, for unrelated medical reasons, the area was overrun by wolves, deer hunting which once was great, is now non-existant, with many hunting camps closing up and moving further East and South. Farms in area have been decimated by wolf kills, but the DNR still supports the re-population of the wolf. The local economy suffers because of the wolves. At least, the Federal Animal Damage Control Agency will support the farmers, only after proving $1700 loss of livestock or pets.

My 700 acre farm was the last private property inside a huge National Forest area, thus the reason why I was hit by wolves before many had issues outside of the area.

[Holland&Holland]

Wait so now everyone wants to believe the MN dept of wildlife???? cmon really? have you ever seen their deer heard numbers? Why is it everyones not taking a B&C record every year in their front yard? If you notice my numbers are of timberwolves, In Mn these are cross of Grey/Timber which accounts for their size, Either way you slice it my numbers are accurate and I stand by my original post.

What I find rediculous is that anyone would believe there are 3000 wolves in MN, I mean hell the MN Wildlife says there are about 5000 Bald Eagles and a short ride from Gr to Bemidji you can see 20 any given sunday, funny thing is, Not a single Wolf. Spare me the 3000 BS.

Ok, so please post a link to your validated research on the true number then since you seem to be an "expert". Also, I would like to see these packs of wild dogs that have gone ferrel. Never know when a pack of labs and beagles might get ya.