new to hunting coyotes. tips?

[thunderoussilence]

Find a place where alot of cats have gone missing. I have gone down to the river bottoms and seen a few but Inver grove does not let you discharge a firearms even when killing a nuisance predator.

[ali_squidz]

I had the best luck with live bait, ex-wife was pissed I used her bottle-baby-lamb.

Steel fence posts in a round circle, wrap with 2 layers of fence wire (48" tall), put 1 post in middle, tie lamb to it, back up 150 yards and wait.

yeah I am so not ok with doing that. Sorry.

[OldmanFCSA]

I had the best luck with live bait, ex-wife was pissed I used her bottle-baby-lamb.

Steel fence posts in a round circle, wrap with 2 layers of fence wire (48" tall), put 1 post in middle, tie lamb to it, back up 150 yards and wait.

yeah I am so not ok with doing that. Sorry.

Fence kept coyotes from lamb.
I shot 4 coyotes dead, 2 wounded, lamb ok.
Better than the bear we had at night eating 17 lambs while lambs were alive, with their rear quarters gone, and then carrying a 175 lb ewe off to eat in woods.

Get off your high horse, if your want advice how to kill coyotes, accept the methods that are best effective.
Otherwise, get a camera to shoot them.

[farmerj]

Get off your high horse, if your want advice how to kill coyotes, accept the methods that are best effective.
Otherwise, get a camera to shoot them.

Not everyone is big on setting up live bait like that.

[OldmanFCSA]

I did live bait in a highly controlled manner as opposed to having coyotes take their pick of any of the 400+ animals on my farm in an un-controlled enviroment.

Which was safer for the lamb, tied to a post out of reach of coyotes, or in a field with easy access by coyotes and bears with no one around to protect them from harm, seeing as how the DNR shot my guard dog because it killed a lone wolf attacking our flock.

Then the DNR dumped a trapped bear 1/2 mile from my farmstead, during lambing season.

[farmerj]

sounds like a personal issue to take up with the DNR. Especially if you are using a LGD.

[user293]

shes sure up on that high horse by apologizing for not being ok with applying your tip to her coyote hunt.

[xd ED]

Not to suggest what is right/ wrong, good/ evil, moral/ immoral with regards to using a live animal for bait. I'll merely point out that some places animal cruelty laws are felonies, as unreasonable as that may seem. Possibly not in a rural/ ag area, but certainly in the metro area.

[OldmanFCSA]

sounds like a personal issue to take up with the DNR. Especially if you are using a LGD.

I did take it up with them, I killed the bear that tried to kill me.
They tried to fine me $600 for killing a game animal out of season.
The Federal Animal Damage Control people gave me a license to kill all bears I saw on my farm for 30 days.

I hate being live bait for a political reason, introducing wolves, which does no good when no controls are in place.
This occurred in 1996 and 2000 again. Don't dump problem bears in an Ag area! This happened twice with same results.

The WI DNR bastards bragged about shooting my expensive guard dog while it was on-duty protecting my livestck.
In comparison,
What would happen if I were to shoot a Police Dog then brag about it??? Both dogs were in-service as they were trained, mine by instinct & breeding.

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Upon re-read, yes I'm bitter and did hit hard on O.P. to which I apologize.
However, I was killing coyotes for financial survival (farming), not for Sport.
There IS a difference!

[crbutler]

Live bait has a long history in hunting and fishing.

The main reason it is not used for sporting purposes anymore is that it was too effective.

Live decoys for waterfowl were hideously effective.

Live bait for tiger and lion were also (especially if you injured them prior to putting them out.) Read Patterson's work on the Lions of Tsavo, or if you are too "busy" you can just watch the movie (Ghost and the Darkness)- While I was there, I was told that the game department would use live bait for particularly smart man eaters even today in Tanzania, although the usual is strychnine in the carcass of the lion's kills.

I cannot see why anyone would object to live bait if legal for hunting livestock killers, but it is unsporting.

[Stealthcarry]

Well, I prefer to just stake out my sister's Lahsas-what-ever and let it do the work. That mutt makes enough racket to wake the dead. If there's a yote within ear-shot they'll hear it and usually, (note the disclaimer) come check it out.

Now, the bad news is, this four legged dust bunny is still with us. But, nothing lasts forever

[ali_squidz]

Get off your high horse, if your want advice how to kill coyotes, accept the methods that are best effective.
Otherwise, get a camera to shoot them.

Not everyone is big on setting up live bait like that.

d.i.c.k.
thanks farmerj. you saw first hand where I am hunting and what my reasons are. They are in the best interests of all the wildlife including the coyotes. I am farm from a peta thumper but I have some boundaries that I am not ok with... AS I POLITELY SAID.
thank you very much and have a GREAT DAY!
PS: I've got the camera and the photography biz too so maybe I will take pics of them JUST FOR YOU..... after I shoot them.

[farmerj]

May want to consider a ground blind then around the trees there then. They can spot you a mile away.

[FJ540]

Anyone got an old chicken they don't want to eat and don't want to lay anymore eggs?

I figure I can pen it up in my back yard for a few days and shoot the yotes that come snooping with the crossbow, then take it up north and tie it to a tree and blast them up there with lead.

Subtle enough for everyone?

I'm serious about the chicken too.

[OldmanFCSA]

Not to suggest what is right/ wrong, good/ evil, moral/ immoral with regards to using a live animal for bait. I'll merely point out that some places animal cruelty laws are felonies, as unreasonable as that may seem. Possibly not in a rural/ ag area, but certainly in the metro area.

I've waited several days before answering this thought pattern, re-read it many times, and am split on my feelings about the subject.

"Not to suggest what is right/ wrong, good/ evil, moral/ immoral with regards to using a live animal for bait." The lamb that I used was in no way hurt or mis-treated. It would bawl its head off 24 hours a day if not bottle-fed, I just used that sound for bait, not electronically as some would do with their fancy equipment duplicating my methods. Please re-read how I created a controlled area for the lamb with a circle of woven wire and a post in the center to ensure the lamb never got anywhere close to the coyotes. The lamb went home for another bottle of milk.

"I'll merely point out that some places animal cruelty laws are felonies, as unreasonable as that may seem." While being a farmer, and even now as a city dweller, I love animals. I have an ability to befriend almost any domestic animal that has not been trained by humans to hate. I've made friends with guard dogs, both on farms and in town, sometimes to b ewilderment of owners. I know how animals greet each other and use that to mingle with them, (not smelling buts like dogs do). I am totally against physically harming an animal for cruelty purposes. That being said ....................

"Possibly not in a rural/ ag area, but certainly in the metro area." As a Farmer, or a Rancher, or a Livestock producer, I raise animals for selling, this is my livelyhood. These same animals are then killed, butchered, wrapped and packaged and put in grocery stores for you city dwellers to buy. You like the meat, enjoy its taste, savor it, BUT don't see the carnage created in the killing and slaughtering process. On the farm, we kill and butcher our own animals for meat, sometimes it is even the animals that grew up as bottle-babies in our own home. Never ask a farmer "who" he is eating tonight - it may just be the family livestock pet animal.

"Where does bacon come from?" Hogs
"Where does ham come from"?" Hogs
"Where does hamburger come from?" Cattle.
........... Don't say the store! ................It is the leftover meat from the cattle butchering process that is not prime cuts. It is scrappings from ribs and other bones, thrown into a meat grinder with other less desireable cuttings of meat, and packaged for sale in stores.

I've seen animal cruelty that has made me sick! It was not on the farm or ranch, it was not while hunting, or in any hunting practices, it was in the slaughtering houses around the nation, places that economically process the meat city dwellers want in their stores. Animals are forced into chutes, hit with an electric stun gun (note: STUN), throats slit wide open cutting arteries to brain, then while still alive, stunned, bleeding out, are hung from their back legs to better bleed out so the meat will taste better. Most are still alive during this process so the heart will continue to pump blood from the veins out thru path of least resistance thru cut arteries in slit neck helped by gravity until no blood is left to pump, then the animal "dies" - slowly - to create great tasting meat fcr your stores.

Don't preach to a farmer about animal cruelty! We make our livelyhood by raising products for your stores. Sometimes we have to kill, cull, or whatever term you want to use, to ensure the safety of our herds, whether from animals or disease. Diseased animals are shot, burned, and buried, so as to not infect the rest of the herd. I hated killing livestock as I was killing some of my profits each time, but I was protecting the rest of my animals, and my income.
True, there are some out there that torture animals for fun or SPORT, the Bible says "an eye for an eye", should we do the same to those who torture animals ???
We don't, because we consider ourselves "Civilized". Our prisons are full, over-full, we let prisoners out early for that reason, they commit again just to get back in, because in most cases "They have it made!" Better living conditions and medical treatment that most citizens in our society. True some are very violent, but if capital punioshment were more utilized, this would reduce the problem. NOW - Does the fact that I was a farmer now make me a believer in capital. punishment? Some will connect this and run with it creating all kinds of theories and stories, which are not true. We all have our beliefs, some about religion, some about hunting practices, some about farming practices, some about being vegetarians, some about guns, some about target shooting, some about hunting, this can go on forever .............. . Does owning a gun make you a murderer? (This brings the memory of the story, true or not, of the military person asking a female that if she has the equipment to be a whore, does that make her a whore?).

I can go on and on, but will quit. (I type with one finger and it is getting sore.) City life is far from farm life! If society breaks down, where will you live, where will you get your food, think about it, think about too many rats living in a too small a place, they turn on each other and end up killing and eating each other. You say that can't happen - you haven't been there - think about the "Donner Party" in Northern Idaho, or the plane crash on a mountain in South America. They got to the point of eating each other just to stay alive. How does this relate to the original subject, animals kill to eat to stay alive, we kill to protect our livelyhood, and some kill just for the Sport of it.

Who are you?