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Re: Night vision/thermal in Minnesota

Postby Ghost on Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:29 pm

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smurfman wrote:97B.081, also found on page 30 of the 2018 hunting regulations, states quite plainly that one is not allowed to cast a light to locate or take any big game, small game or unprotected species except for a few very limited exceptions. That statute seems to not be affected by the new statute so the old one would still be in full affect.

I'm pretty sure that the hunting synopsis of 97B.081 used the phrase "wild animal" to define what could be taken using lights in years past. That may have changed at some point but the heading for the statute still uses "wild animals". It might be in the fishing regs but I do recall the statute went so far that one could not even use lights to take frogs. Lastly, I had a nice talk with a conservation officer one night regarding the flashlight taped to my 10/22. When I explained I was shooting feral cats rather than wild animals and pointed out the pile of carcasses stacked along the fenceline, he wished me good luck and a good night.

Mirroring the artificial light rules would be the simplest change is the basis for my belief that NV/TI would follow that path. I don't see the rules regarding artificial lights becoming more lax so doubt it will be any different for NV/TI. I dearly hope I'm wrong but this is Minnesota where change moves in increments at a glacial pace.


I guess it boils down to whether or not they classify night vision as artificial light. It wouldn't make sense to me, but little does anymore.

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Re: Night vision/thermal in Minnesota

Postby yukonjasper on Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:03 pm

Is the main fear the use of these systems in nocturnal poaching scenarios? Is it yet another case of the 99% being managed because of the 1% that cannot be trusted?
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Re: Night vision/thermal in Minnesota

Postby Jackpine Savage on Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:06 pm

yukonjasper wrote:Is the main fear the use of these systems in nocturnal poaching scenarios? Is it yet another case of the 99% being managed because of the 1% that cannot be trusted?


Probably. Just like 'there will be blood in the streets' argument against Shall Issue.

The serious/professional poacher is probably already using a suppressor, and it's probably homemade. But honest citizens aren't going to risk their $200 tax stamp and $1,000 suppressor by poaching.

Oops we were talking about night vision. Substitute night vision for suppressor, probably not homemade.
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Re: Night vision/thermal in Minnesota

Postby Ghost on Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:07 pm

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yukonjasper wrote:Is the main fear the use of these systems in nocturnal poaching scenarios? Is it yet another case of the 99% being managed because of the 1% that cannot be trusted?


Probably. Just like 'there will be blood in the streets' argument against Shall Issue.

The serious/professional poacher is probably already using a suppressor, and it's probably homemade. But honest citizens aren't going to risk their $200 tax stamp and $1,000 suppressor by poaching.

Oops we were talking about night vision. Substitute night vision for suppressor, probably not homemade.

I always figured the biggest poachers were victims of opportunity rather than big business poaching but I have no idea. No doubt there are some habitual poachers out there though.
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