old guy wrote:Sigfan220 wrote:If it takes a 338 win mag to drop a deer you shouldn't be deer hunting. Spend a little time at the range and quit buying the Walmart bullets. A well made bullet out of just about any short action will kill a deer like a laser.
Well well well, a lot of conclusions gittin jumped here. Time at the range? I jumped the buck out of his bed at 20 yds and hit him 1/2 inch to the right of his brown eye, the bullet was a sierra spitzer boattail #2600 pushed by a bunch of 4350 (Walmart indeed) the bullet didn't quite make it out the front of his chest.
I've shot deer with the .243 also and it won't do that.
John
dubya wrote:The Lance wrote:I do and I love it. Just use copper rounds instead of lead. Took down a doe last year
What do you think is the general feeling out there, has anyone given you a hard time?
The Lance wrote:
I would probably get more negative feedback for one day wanting to be on a tree and leaping onto a deer and slitting it's carotid artery with a kershaw
old guy wrote: You'r pointing out just what Ive found, you shot that one right on the button but he still went 200 yds, I saw one hit like that with an 30-06 go 500yds, the big ones are harder to kill.
John
old guy wrote:When i was much younger I used to go out and hunt my deer down, I remember one opening day in Wisc., by daylight I was a mile deep in the swamp country of Moose Juction, when I came out of the Belden swamp to HWY35 late in the afternoon I was 5 miles from the junction and the 3 miles down the Moose rd to camp, figured I put on 17 miles that day.
The point is those big bucks will not stand broadside and let you shoot them, they are gone now. I've raked many up through guts to the heart-lungs but it takes a heavy bullet to get the job done, never lost on wounded either ecept for one I hit at 100 yds broadside with a 12 ga. too far back and I could not follow where it went due to my own injurys at the time.
Now I am old and banged up and use cane and crutches , that's why I carry the AR, I can hang it around my neck and not worry about it getting banged up.
I have to sit in a stand and let them come to me, that really sucks.
John
Vlad wrote:Back to the OP's question which I believe was more about the platform than a caliber urinating contest. In short, I have hunted the last three years in the shotgun zone, with an AR pistol in 300 WTF. I have succesfully harvested 10 deer in that time. I have not had any that I have shot that have not been recovered. Furthest trail was 40 yards or so. Shot placement and practice are key. Always has been, always will be...
DitchDR wrote:Vlad wrote:Back to the OP's question which I believe was more about the platform than a caliber urinating contest. In short, I have hunted the last three years in the shotgun zone, with an AR pistol in 300 WTF. I have succesfully harvested 10 deer in that time. I have not had any that I have shot that have not been recovered. Furthest trail was 40 yards or so. Shot placement and practice are key. Always has been, always will be...
I agree with Vlad. Practice is key. Don't be one of the "hunters" that send 3 rounds down range a few days before the season and call it good enough. I shoot my deer rifle and shotgun (slugs) all summer long. I credit this practice to honestly say that in 13 deer that I have shot, only one was shot twice. I made the dumb decision to shoot at a deer running at about 130 yards or so at the bottom of a hill. I hit it in the knee. I did that with the Colt AR. 2 people in my family hunt with AR's. We started with a Colt Match 7.62x39 that my dad bought in 1994. Ive taken a few with it and my dad has taken many with it. My nephew is using it now. My dad switched up to an Armalite AR10 .308. I would like to find one in .243 and with as many calibers they are making ar's in now, I am waiting for the day an Ar in 270 is released.
Sigfan220 wrote:I bet a 50bmg would drop them pretty well if you are having trouble. Maybe a bit overkill but you can never have too much gun for the job.
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