Burnsville Pistol Range Practical Pistol Winter League

[Snowgun]

The foam strips (actually foam pipe insulation I've split) serve a purpose: fault lines, shooting boxes, or whatever else I can think of. I've steered away from PVC (1/2" prefered) or wood (1x1s) since they're both hard and will sit on a concrete floor. Too big and they'd be a trip hazard. Too hard and they would slip if someone stepped on them. Oakdale uses 2x2s that are fixed at the corners, and spiked into the ground! What I need is something like the foam strips that's about the same size as we're using, but stiffer, can attach firmly at the corners, and can be held securely to the floor.

Ideas?

I understand why you use the foam, but it compresses too much when stepped on as well as moves when slid into it. What about this?:


http://www.epm.com/extrusion_half.htm
http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm
http://www.wefcorubber.com/extrusions_i ... rounds.asp


I am thinking solid extruded rubber half rounds. They will be low profile very similar to the foam strip, yet still be somewhat soft yet stiff enough to provide tactile feedback when you step on them.

[SkyRock]

The foam strips (actually foam pipe insulation I've split) serve a purpose: fault lines, shooting boxes, or whatever else I can think of. I've steered away from PVC (1/2" prefered) or wood (1x1s) since they're both hard and will sit on a concrete floor. Too big and they'd be a trip hazard. Too hard and they would slip if someone stepped on them. Oakdale uses 2x2s that are fixed at the corners, and spiked into the ground! What I need is something like the foam strips that's about the same size as we're using, but stiffer, can attach firmly at the corners, and can be held securely to the floor.

Ideas?

I understand why you use the foam, but it compresses too much when stepped on as well as moves when slid into it. What about this?:


http://www.epm.com/extrusion_half.htm
http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm
http://www.wefcorubber.com/extrusions_i ... rounds.asp


I am thinking solid extruded rubber half rounds. They will be low profile very similar to the foam strip, yet still be somewhat soft yet stiff enough to provide tactile feedback when you step on them.

Do you know of a local vendor? Others may be interested.

[gunsmith]

Painters tape seems like the best non-destructive solution for attaching things in the bay.

I'm a photographer....couldn't live without this stuff Gaffer (lighting director) Tape

Gaffer tape
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gaffer tape, gaffer's tape, gaffing tape, gaff tape[1] or gaffa tape[2] is a strong, tough, cotton cloth pressure-sensitive tape with strong adhesive properties. It is used in theatre, film and television productions as well as during live performances and any other kind of stage work. While related to duct tape, it differs in that it can be removed cleanly because it uses a synthetic petroleum-based adhesive rather than a natural rubber adhesive.[3] The tape is often referred to as a production expendable because it is discarded after the production process is complete.

It is named for the gaffer, or Chief Lighting Technician (CLT) on a film crew[citation needed]. When cables are taped down on a stage or other surface, either for safety or to keep them out of view of the audience or camera,[4] they are said to be gaffed or gaffered.

The most common use for gaffer tape is securing cables to the stage floor or other surface, either for safety or to keep them out of view of the audience or camera.

$20 for a giant roll $12 for a smaller one Try West Photo DT MPLS .

Gorilla tape (only $8 for a large roll) is 2x as strong and is a different animal (as is Duct Tape)

The goal is to make it REMOVABLE from floors and aluminum tripod legs without leaving a sticky residue or pulling the paint up off the floor.

you'll love it and never turn back....good for positioning parts while assembling.

[Snowgun]

Do you know of a local vendor? Others may be interested.

http://www.robinsonrubber.com/pages/pro ... p_erp.html
http://www.midwestrubber.com/general-ru ... stics.html
http://www.mnrubber.com/Capabilities/Products.html

This is what I found Locally, in order of decreasing likelyhood of having what we want.

[CarRacer]

Stage 1



Stage 2


Lots of fun tonight, thanks to the RO's and scorers for keeping things moving and safe. The altered scoring was an interesting twist as well.

[TH3180]

Fun stages tonight Mike, thanks.

[Snowgun]

Really liked the altered scoring stage. Simple but the scoring change made a significant difference in strategy. Nice work. Keep it weird!

[SkyRock]

Really liked the altered scoring stage. Simple but the scoring change made a significant difference in strategy. Nice work. Keep it weird!

Be careful what you ask for!

[Mn01r6]

Really liked the altered scoring stage. Simple but the scoring change made a significant difference in strategy. Nice work. Keep it weird!

Be careful what you ask for!

Mike, I don't think you need any encouragement, but it was nice to shoot again and you always come up with fun stages.

[TH3180]

Really liked the altered scoring stage. Simple but the scoring change made a significant difference in strategy. Nice work. Keep it weird!

Yeah, just keep pouring gas on the fire.

Really liked the altered scoring stage. Simple but the scoring change made a significant difference in strategy. Nice work. Keep it weird!

Be careful what you ask for!

Calm down mike. No need to get crazy here. Then again if you want. Just do special(weird) scoring for guys with the 1st name of Mike. That way you can have fun with your scoring and Dr. Snowgun can get his wish of weird scoring all at the same time.

[SkyRock]

Scores sent.

[Mn01r6]

My 1st stage win ever!!!! I was the first person to shoot the first stage and somehow - mostly because a few of the good regulars didn't show or we're shooting revolver - I laid down a good enough score to win production class for a stage.

[CarRacer]

Nice job, well on your way to winning a match.

[Snowgun]

My 1st stage win ever!!!! I was the first person to shoot the first stage and somehow - mostly because a few of the good regulars didn't show or we're shooting revolver - I laid down a good enough score to win production class for a stage.

Nice work! Notice that although you didn't have the fastest time, your hits more than made up for it and gave you the stage win.

Something that everyone should consider....can one make that A hit by taking a quarter of a second longer?

Here is a good way to determine how expensive the lost points are in terms of time:

Stage 2:
6 targets with two shots each = 12 x 5 = 60 possible points.
Typical time= 8 seconds for a fast time, 12 seconds for a medium time (you have to estimate what you would shoot it in)

60 / 8 = 7.5 hit factor
60 / 12 = 5 hit factor

If you take the inverse of the hit factor (1/7.5 and 1/5) you get seconds per point.

So, if you were shooting stage 2 in a 12 second time, and you hit a "D" instead of an A, you would be down 5 points (since D's were 0 points on stage 2).
Since each point is 1/5th of a second, you would get the same score as someone who used an entire second to make the A hit.

This helps determine how slow to shoot to get accuracy, or whether it is worth taking make up shots on a particular stage.

[SkyRock]

Those of you that come to these matches learn very quickly that you're exposted to my, uh, "experimentation" for want of a better word. Different Power Factor values, no-shoots behind targets (remember, Rule 4!), and so on. I haven't heard any complaints...yet.

So I'd like your opinion of something I'm thinking of doing. "Practical" shooting (can't say "combat"), or IPSC style shooting was originally started to let shooters solve problems that require shooting to save their lives (or those they're responsible for), or to avoid grevious bodily harm. The target we use now, the IPSC "Metric" target, has four scoring zones, that you all know. However, an A in the head won't give the same bad guy's response as an A in the body. In other words, A (head) isn't the same as A (body).

What I propose, and I'd like your opinion of this, is that we have five scoring zones: Alpha (body), Bravo (not "Baker"...look it up! ), Charlie and Delta that we're used to, plus an "Echo" (for Eyes) that was the A (head) zone. Needless to say, an E hit would be worth more than an A hit.

What do you think?