Going prone at Oakdale?

View · by **promod1385** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:29 pm

I went and shot at Oakdale during public hours for the first time this past weekend. I forgot to ask, is it acceptable to move the tables and shoot prone on the 100 and 200yd ranges?

View · by **Dave Pendleton** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:41 pm

As long as you're safe--yes.

View · by **promod1385** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:50 pm

Dave Pendleton wrote:As long as you're safe--yes.

Thanks for the info Dave

Considering my buddy (who asked this question) is a former Marine and a long range shooting instructor we should have the safety department covered. I will let him know, he refuses to go unless we can shoot prone.

Hope to see yall next weekend!

View · by **bstrawse** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:54 pm

Perfectly fine to do so - I would give a heads up to the range officer as it's not something we see that often

View · by **Scott Notaeh** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:00 pm

bstrawse wrote:Perfectly fine to do so - I would give a heads up to the range officer as it's not something we see that often

This makes me sad.

View · by **Dave Pendleton** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:01 pm

bstrawse wrote:Perfectly fine to do so - I would give a heads up to the range officer as it's not something we see that often

Agreed, a nice courtesy.

I don't give it a second thought if the shooter(s) behaves safely.

View · by **Dave Pendleton** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:12 pm

Scott Notaeh wrote:
bstrawse wrote:Perfectly fine to do so - I would give a heads up to the range officer as it's not something we see that often

This makes me sad.

Me too. You'd be surprised at the number of folks that want to shoot from the bench (with shot bags), as opposed to any other position (even handgun shooters).

bstrawse is right, we rarely see someone wanting to shoot prone, or standing, or kneeling for that matter.

All these positions are allowed, so long as you are safe.

Use them.

View · by **ttousi** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:15 pm

no written policy that I am aware of........During sight in when we are busy it would be disruptive. I have asked for clarification.

View · by **Dave Pendleton** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:25 pm

ttousi wrote:no written policy that I am aware of........During sight in when we are busy it would be disruptive. I have asked for clarification.

I purposely sign up (for range duty) during the busiest time of the year (MN and WI openers) because I enjoy the "action."

It's never been an issue for me (5 years as a RO and 1 as LRO).

You're on the board of directors, so I would expect a ruling from you, but in my experience it's has been "legal" and sanctioned by the club.

View · by **bofe954** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:25 pm

There's a lot of variation out there from RO to RO. Just because something is safe, reasonable and not forbidden in the rules doesn't mean the RO will let you do it. I had a friend who went there on public hours and wasn't allowed to chrono. I imagine a lot of RO's would have let him, but the one that day didn't.

The 200 out there is generally empty, public or private time. I would think it would be better to just go there and ask the RO than do it on the 100 with 20 other shooters.

View · by **Dave Pendleton** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:36 pm

bofe954 wrote:There's a lot of variation out there from RO to RO. Just because something is safe, reasonable and not forbidden in the rules doesn't mean the RO will let you do it. I had a friend who went there on public hours and wasn't allowed to chrono. I imagine a lot of RO's would have let him, but the one that day didn't.

The 200 out there is generally empty, public or private time. I would think it would be better to just go there and ask the RO than do it on the 100 with 20 other shooters.

And if I'm working the range that day--you can shoot whatever position you like. As long as it's safe.

View · by **ttousi** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:38 pm

Dave Pendleton wrote:
ttousi wrote:no written policy that I am aware of........During sight in when we are busy it would be disruptive. I have asked for clarification.

I purposely sign up (for range duty) during the busiest time of the year (MN and WI openers) because I enjoy the "action."

It's never been an issue for me (5 years as a RO and 1 as LRO).

You're on the board, so I would expect a ruling from you, but in my experience it's been "legal" and sanctioned.

Nope not on the board any more.........I have no problem with the various positions but when we have people waiting in line to sight in on the 100 moving benches around would create problems. The 100 gets a little tight for space when full.

One of the biggest problems we have had is that too many things are not written so we get variances between RO's. Confuses everyone and we look like fools. Example: when on the Board (Safety Director) I received a call about allowing a 50BMG.......several board members on site said they weren't allowed. I ruled that unless they could show it in writing the customer could shoot it. No written policy so the customer shot.

Bottom line is common sense should prevail in cases where there is no written policy. We have no policy on blind shooters (alone or accompanied).....what makes sense.

View · by **Dave Pendleton** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:46 pm

ttousi wrote:[Nope not on the board any more.........I have no problem with the various positions but when we have people waiting in line to sight in on the 100 moving benches around would create problems. The 100 gets a little tight for space when full.

One of the biggest problems we have had is that too many things are not written so we get variances between RO's. Confuses everyone and we look like fools. Example: when on the Board (Safety Director) I received a call about allowing a 50BMG.......several board members on site said they weren't allowed. I ruled that unless they could show it in writing the customer could shoot it. No written policy so the customer shot.

Bottom line is common sense should prevail in cases where there is no written policy. We have no policy on blind shooters (alone or accompanied).....what makes sense.

I agree with your positons here, but I have always maintained that a shooter has paid for bench. I don't care how how long they are there or what they do while on the bench.

I know it's busy, I've seen a hundred shooters lined-up at the 100. I wouldn't even consider telling a shooter "move it along" to get the line moving.

View · by **ttousi** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:50 pm

I agree with your positons here, but I have always maintained that a shooter has paid for bench. I don't care how how long they are there or what they do while on the bench.

agree as long as whatever they do does not negatively impact other shooters .......safety or otherwise

View · by **Dave Pendleton** on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:59 pm

ttousi wrote:
I agree with your positons here, but I have always maintained that a shooter has paid for bench. I don't care how how long they are there or what they do while on the bench.

agree as long as whatever they do does not negatively impact other shooters .......safety or otherwise

Safety is the primary concern.

Always.

If they take all day, I'm fine with that; regardless of how long the line is.