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Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:23 pm
by goda0301
I’m looking for feedback on starting up a steel shoot. (A Saturday or Sunday in March weather permitting) I belong to a smaller sportsmen’s club 30 miles west of metro. I’ve been to a couple of Gophers steels shoots but never really paid much attention to the different set ups etc... Ideally we are looking for info (and people with knowledge about the proper set up) This club has a larger club house with a 50 yard Pistol, 100 yard Rifle/Pistol, and a 200 yard Rifle. Also a trap tower, rabbit and smaller sporting clay set up. The range is basically goes unused... its a combination of lack of time and most of the members live in the country so we can just shoot out our back doors. We are looking for people that would like to become active members but we really want to get the younger generation involved. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated. In a perfect world we would love to get a several knowledgeable people about steel shooting that would be willing to come and share/educated/instruct newbie’s and old junk yard dogs on different techniques and skills used for the sport. This club like most has little to no money so your pay would be in the form of a membership to the club or oscar meyer hotdogs. If we can get it put together I think it would be a great event that could get allot of new shooters educated so they would feel allot more comfortable when the more competitive Gopher steel shoots start up the next month.

Let me know
Thanks
Dave

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:21 pm
by JJ
goda0301 wrote: If we can get it put together I think it would be a great event that could get allot of new shooters educated so they would feel allot more comfortable when the more competitive Gopher steel shoots start up the next month.



From a beginners competition standpoint, I think the current Gopher events are tough to beat as it is. They are really as much as a primer for IDPS, USPSA and such as they are anything else.

It kinda seems like reinventing the wheel.

:2cents:

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:18 pm
by igofast
You only want to do 1x year?

There's a few ways you could go:
    Work with Gopher to do a similar format - however it sounds like you're right next door and as it's been said: Gopher already puts on a good show. I get that you would 'prep' people for Gopher, but I see it as stepping on toes unless you're working in conjunction with them.

    Put on a NSSF Rimfire match:http://www.nssf.org/rimfire/#&panel1-1 (or similar)

    Put on a Steel Challenge Match: http://steelchallenge.com/ (or similar)

Honestly, pick the rules and set up steel, it's not rocket surgery. Personally I think it's easier to attract beginners with rimfire, although the extended lack of available ammo is definitely a detriment. If you want to attract new people I would also take a play from Cowboy shooting and put big plates up at close range(still be safe, there's a minimum distance that you need to have them to not get caught by splashback, etc). Additionally I would take to heart the NSSF guideline that 90% of the people should hit the plate 90% of the time. Finally - keep the rules to a minimum. Safety absolutely must be enforced, but don't get bogged down in divisions(Gopher has 1 division(except for revolver day), and NSSF has 2: open or limited)

I personally would love to see a Steel Match setup - to my knowledge that doesn't exist anywhere publicly in MN. Being able to shoot the 'same' stages(Smoke & Hope is set up the same no matter where you shoot it) and comparing times against the big dogs would be a hoot. Having it a couple times a year would probably make more sense then, and if you could dedicate resources to it it could attract membership on it's own. BUT, I'm not a new shooter.

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:54 pm
by LarryFlew
Where? If you do try first check the schedule for the monthly shoots at Gopher Campfire. March is a bit crappy typically as is the first GC April shoot. GL

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:34 pm
by usnret
Proper steel targets are not cheap. Get a hold of the guys at Shoot Steel (shootsteel.com) and talk to them about the cost of targets.
What is the name of your club and where is it?

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:43 pm
by Lights
A steel challenge Match would be great.

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:13 pm
by mrgoodwrench1985
I might be interested. However the idea of having to pratice before you go to the real competition at gopher campfire is unnecessary the guys and gals at gopher campfire are nice and respectful and always happy to help new shooters. Espically china. she runs the group of newbs (of which i am one) every month. That being said in my opinion the more steel shoots the better. Where is this top secret club located? Oh and like larryflew said make sure they are not the same weekend as gopher or im out lol

Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:01 am
by PhilaBOR
Maybe a steel three-gun match? You've got facilities for all three.

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:34 pm
by cobb
mrgoodwrench1985 wrote:I might be interested. However the idea of having to pratice before you go to the real competition at gopher campfire is unnecessary the guys and gals at gopher campfire are nice and respectful and always happy to help new shooters. Espically china. she runs the group of newbs (of which i am one) every month.

:iagree:

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:39 pm
by carbide
No trying to derail,

but what is a "steel shoot"? I understand the shooting of steel targets LOL.

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:56 pm
by LarryFlew
carbide wrote:No trying to derail,

but what is a "steel shoot"? I understand the shooting of steel targets LOL.


Exactly. In this case there are 4 stations of 5 targets. You shoot each station 4 times. The worst time is thrown out. The total time for all stations ranks where you end up. There is also a man vs man that is optional after the main match.

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:07 pm
by Pat Cannon
LarryFlew wrote:
carbide wrote:No trying to derail,

but what is a "steel shoot"? I understand the shooting of steel targets LOL.


Exactly. In this case there are 4 stations of 5 targets. You shoot each station 4 times. The worst time is thrown out. The total time for all stations ranks where you end up. There is also a man vs man that is optional after the main match.

Yep. Based on Steel Challenge competition.

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:10 am
by tator2k
Personally I don't think there's any toe stepping. It not like you're planning on trying to have on the same days. I know a lot of newer shooters that would love to see more places and dates to shoot steel within a similar setting as Gopher.

10-15 years ago we'd drive all over the state every other weekend for bowling pin matches, Virginia, Duluth, Rochester, occasionally other more local ranges would put on an event.

I'd also like to know the location and more details.

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:28 am
by carl k
I'm new to the state and have been looking for a Steel Challenge match but can't find any.

I'm definitely in for Steel Challenge.

Re: Starting up a Steel Shoot

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:32 pm
by Pat Cannon
carl k wrote:I'm new to the state and have been looking for a Steel Challenge match but can't find any.

I'm definitely in for Steel Challenge.


Well then you'll enjoy the Gopher Campfire matches so we'll see you April 18th!

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