Has Anyone Heard of Instructor Aron Lambrecht?

[hammAR]

Welcome and I can definately respect that you have the gonads to respond to all this.

Agree, but it's spelled go-nads (and definitely).

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gonads

But what do I know. This is only my fourth language

..that's five more than Mac has.....................

[Vlad]

I thought that he knew two, the other being keyboard commando geek-speak...

[macphisto]

I thought that he knew two, the other being keyboard commando geek-speak...

Keyboard commando? Do I not talk a lot of **** in-person?

Besides, knowing languages other than English is overrated.

[ttousi]

Welcome Aron and again thanks for your service.

BTW..... pay no attention to the children...........

[gtc]

its alright, its those children who come to my course>>>

[macphisto]

its alright, its those children who come to my course>>>

Not even if it was free. Hell, not even if you paid me.

[nyffman]

Welcome. Glad you found us. BTW, since it was part of the early discussion, where did your company name come from? Just curious.

[gtc]

The name came from the use of military slang, surprise or fast movement, tactics as we all know, means to be tactfull or a surprise movement as well. so surprise tactics, or the gotcha mantallity.

[goalie]

its alright, its those children who come to my course>>>

Not even if it was free. Hell, not even if you paid me.

Really?

I'm personally of the belief that you can always learn something from everyone. Maybe not what they are trying to teach you, but definitely SOMETHING.

To put it another way, I don't really agree with Mas Ayoob on a whole lot regarding reloads etc...., but I'm still glad I took his advanced stressfire course. If it were free, you could go, take it all in, and keep what you want for your toolbox. To say you wouldn't go if you were paid indicates a pretty fixed mindset and an unwillingness to be exposed to something different.

I would never carry a 1911, but I damn sure would go to Gunsite and take a pistol course with one if it was free......

[macphisto]

its alright, its those children who come to my course>>>

Not even if it was free. Hell, not even if you paid me.

Really?

I'm personally of the belief that you can always learn something from everyone. Maybe not what they are trying to teach you, but definitely SOMETHING.

To put it another way, I don't really agree with Mas Ayoob on a whole lot regarding reloads etc...., but I'm still glad I took his advanced stressfire course. If it were free, you could go, take it all in, and keep what you want for your toolbox. To say you wouldn't go if you were paid indicates a pretty fixed mindset and an unwillingness to be exposed to something different.

I would never carry a 1911, but I damn sure would go to Gunsite and take a pistol course with one if it was free......

Really.

Andrew Rothman let me sit in on his carry course earlier this year free-of-charge. I was there to see how his training differed from the course I had taken, brush up on my knowledge, and offer suggestions. Most of the material was review for me, but it was a worthwhile experience because Andrew is a very competent instructor and a nice guy. Andrew spends a lot of time in his class going over the carry law itself and the legal implications of carrying a firearm for self-defense and less time on practical matters such as calibers and carry methods. I sat in on another course taught by a Tactical Tommy who spent the majority of the class on matters such as getting a good draw and where to shoot and very little time on the law. The course I took before getting my permit was a blend of both. While I feel all three were good classes, a class that deals more in the law of carrying is probably best. The rest of the stuff can be picked up as you go or in supplemental training.

Comparing an unknown MN PTC instructor with Mas Ayoob or Gunsite is not apples-to-apples. The latter are proven experts and, despite not agreeing with all the finer points of their philosophies, you're almost guaranteed to gain something of value.

I'm not unwilling to learn something new or different, quite the contrary. What I AM unwilling to do is waste my time taking a self-defense/firearm class from a twenty-four-year-old with a MySpace page, a bad attitude, a demonstrated lack of good judgment, and poor spelling.

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The reason I harshly scrutinize unknown and unproven instructors is due, in part, to what we've seen here and on the other board many times. A new member joins, excited to have just taken her carry class, and introduces herself:

"Hey, I just took my conceal carry class from Tactical Ninja Training (TNT) and it was great! Anyone know how long it will take my CCW to arrive? I've been convicted of domestic violence, do you think that will be a problem? Will my CCW be valid anywhere outside Minnesota? What if my shirt blows up and someone sees my piece, would I go to jail for brandishing? I'm never going to carry with a round chambered because my instructor said it's dangerous. Also, anyone know where I can get a conceal carry badge? The instructor said it's a good idea that could save your life."

Bad instructors create bad permit-holders...and we don't need any more of those. I'm not calling Aron a bad instructor, but I'm skeptical.

I changed my mind. I will take Aron's GOTCHA carry class, if compensated, and provide a full, well-written critique. When I do private consulting work, my standard rate is $50/hour. Let me know.

[goalie]

I changed my mind. I will take Aron's GOTCHA carry class, if compensated, and provide and full, well-written critique. When I do private consulting work, my standard rate is $50/hour. Let me know.

See, I knew you were reasonable.

[Stradawhovious]

Comparing an unknown MN PTC instructor with Mas Ayoob or Gunsite is not apples-to-apples. The latter are proven experts and, despite not agreeing with all the finer points of their philosophies, you're almost guaranteed to gain something of value.

I'm not unwilling to learn something new or different, quite the contrary. What I AM unwilling to do is waste my time taking a self-defense/firearm class from a twenty-four-year-old with a MySpace page, a bad attitude, a demonstrated lack of good judgment, and poor spelling.

...

The reason I harshly scrutinize unknown and unproven instructors is due, in part, to what we've seen here and on the other board many times. A new member joins, excited to have just taken her carry class, and introduces herself:

"Hey, I just took my conceal carry class from Tactical Ninja Training (TNT) and it was great! Anyone know how long it will take my CCW to arrive? I've been convicted of domestic violence, do you think that will be a problem? Will my CCW be valid anywhere outside Minnesota? What if my shirt blows up and someone sees my piece, would I go to jail for brandishing? I'm never going to carry with a round chambered because my instructor said it's dangerous. Also, anyone know where I can get a conceal carry badge? The instructor said it's a good idea that could save your life."

Bad instructors create bad permit-holders...and we don't need any more of those. I'm not calling Aron a bad instructor, but I'm skeptical.

I changed my mind. I will take Aron's GOTCHA carry class, if compensated, and provide and full, well-written critique. When I do private consulting work, my standard rate is $50/hour. Let me know.

Hey Mac, could you please stop sugar coating and tell us how you really feel?

And Aron, you my consider not referring to the MN carry class you teach as a "Conceal and Carry" class (as stated on your myspace page), unless concealment is a main point in your teachings. The purists here will be thrilled to, and take all advantage in correcting you with statements like "show me anywhere on my permit where you find the word conceal" and "It's a carry permit, with no conceal requirement" and things of that nature.

Good luck in your endeavors.

My .02

[gtc]

macphisto
you ever thought about working for the bca to certify organizations. I am sure that josh florell who is the BCA cordinator for Approved organizations would love to hear your thoughts and concerns. Im sure he would also love to hear how you feel about his way of certifieing those who have the credentials to teach Carry laws. As for what the law states, i have pasted it for you....
Instructor Certification Requirements

Approved organizations and government entities may grant instructor certificates to individuals who have been certified within the last five (5) years in accordance with the Department of Public Safety’s standards and have received training in a course or courses, that at a minimum contained:

Instruction in the fundamentals of pistol use including mechanical knowledge of handguns, and safe practices in shooting, loading, unloading, clearing firearm malfunctions, safe storage and firearm care;

Successful completion of an actual shooting qualification exercise and the ability to evaluate shooting proficiency and safe weapon skills of students in a practical firearm shooting exercise;

Instruction in the legal aspects of pistol possession, carry, and use, including self-defense and the restrictions on the use of deadly force. This should also include the psychological and physiological effects of a violent threat encounter and simple weapon retention techniques;

Instruction on how to maintain records of students seeking a permit to carry a firearm.

[gtc]

As for the Conceal carry portion, anyone who has ever gone through a Carry permit class, knows this is all based on the original legislature for what they called the Concealed Carry laws, also, being an approved instructor of other forms, The state board of private detective still requires that security officers must attend a Conceal Carry permit class. Thus this is why it is refered to as the Conceal "carry" course, also. for anyone who is that up on myspace, look at my last date of log in. Im not a avid myspacer

[Stradawhovious]

Doesn't change the fact that Mac is right. Many new permit holders often have questions that absolutely should have been addressed by the instructor. The fact that an instructor has the ability and knowledge necessary to become cetified, does not automatically make them a competent insructor.

Once again, my .02