Rob Pincus Coming to the Cities

[rtk]

in doing a little searching around on the web it looks like Rob is married to Irlene Mandrell of the the Mandrell sisters fame (she is the good looking blonde one...never mind, all three are good looking ) I saw something on one the outdoor channels last year about her celebrity shoot that she sponsors every year at Valhalla and it looked interesting. I know that this information has nothing to do with Rob's class, I just thought that it was interesting.

If she is one of the instructors for his class I will sign up in a New York minute!

rtk

[macphisto]

If I win the lottery (which I don't play) AND start reloading on a progressive press in the next couple months, I'll be there!

[Einthoven's Triangle]

There is more info at http://www.tacticalreality.invisionzone ... wtopic=586

[JoeH]

If I win the lottery (which I don't play) AND start reloading on a progressive press in the next couple months, I'll be there!

Mac, use your lottery winnings for factory ammo since I'd bet that he won't allow reloads.

[Einthoven's Triangle]

I think the term "quality ammunition" is used, that I do not think precludes the use of reloaded ammo. It is not like going to Thunder Ranch where ""LEAD FREE FRANGIBLE PROJECTILE AMMUNITION" is a requirement. And, it is hard to find at times....and expensive. If you are noob reloader, then perhaps factory might by a better choice.
I can see the reasoning to having a factory ammo requirement, but good reloading practices can produce quality ammo.

[JoeH]

I can see the reasoning to having a factory ammo requirement, but good reloading practices can produce quality ammo.

I agree 100%. However, in browsing many training web sites, I quite often see factory ammo as a requirement.

[Ironbear]

I can see the reasoning to having a factory ammo requirement, but good reloading practices can produce quality ammo.

I agree 100%. However, in browsing many training web sites, I quite often see factory ammo as a requirement.

At the range, virtually every time I see someone having Feeding/Extracting/Ejecting problems, they are using reloads. I'm sure that good quality reloads can be made, but a lot of people seem to try to get by with cheap* and easy instead. I suspect that the schools got tired of the disruption caused by people with mediocre ammo, and tried to eliminate that variable.

*Seems like for every one reloader trying to find the ragged edge of velocity, there are three trying to see how little powder they can get away with, while using the cheapest bullets they can find.

[Fast351]

At the range, virtually every time I see someone having Feeding/Extracting/Ejecting problems, they are using 1911s.

Fixed it for ya....

[Pinnacle]

Yup - people that are careless about reloading make BAD ammo. Stick to the books - make a middle of the road load

We are trying to kill paper with Reloads - and Function the gun 100% - nothing more than that. People that puch it or cut corners soon learn an expensive lesson.

[Rob Pincus]

Hello, Everyone.

I appreciate the interest in the course in May and the discussion of it. If anyone has any specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. The course is just about full, enrollment will probably close next week, but we are already talking about a 2nd course this year in the fall. This first course came about at the invitation of Greg Sullivan at Defensive Edge. He taught courses a few times for me at Valhalla and we've known each other for years. He knows that I am working with a company based in MN and we came up with the idea of running a Combat Focus course while I was in town some time......

As for the ammunition, it is not a green range, so lead ammo is fine. I prefer not to restrict reloaded ammo from the range because I have seen "quality" reloads perform very well. If someone shows up and has problems with a holster, gun OR Ammunition that is not working to a reasonable standard, they would have to switch out that gear in order to continue. I give the benefit of the doubt that someone showing up to a course to learn life-saving skills is going to show up with ammo that they've tested in their firearm and that is reliable... if not, we'll work it out!

-Rob
-vscrob@msn.com

[cobb]

At the range, virtually every time I see someone having Feeding/Extracting/Ejecting problems, they are using 1911s.

Fixed it for ya....

You know you are making a fool out of yourself don't you? Oh, you probably shoot a Glock, now we understand.

[Don L]

Let's watch that "Shooting a Glock" stuff! I resemble that! IMHO, when some of the schools I've been to require "factory ammo", their reasoning was that it was one less thing to go wrong. At two different classes at Gunsite, two different guys with their own reloads had problems with them, and when you're investing that much money and time to attend a class, that's not the time to have problems with anything-guns, ammo, or gear. I've also seen where a place had a rule about factory ammo, and no one said a word when folks showed up with reloads.

[Einthoven's Triangle]

Just shoot a H&K and never worry about problems with function.....H&K's and Glocks are like the energizer bunny! They just keep going and going and going! A reliable 1911 man that is a term like "Military Intelligence" a real contradiction of terms......