Is this holster legal for a steel shoot?

[brent375hh]

Is this trigger covered enough to use in a steel shoot? It is an Ernie hill for a Government, but it fits my 945 about the same.
The trigger coverage is about the same with the 1911. Since it was an IPSC favaorite for years, I hope I could use it to a speed advantage as opposed to my carry holster.

Thanks

[macphisto]

I would say no, but I'm not in charge.

[Snowgun]

that thing is gonna jump right out during man vs man.

go spend $23 bucks on a decent holster.

Westberg at http://www.unholstered.com has some good ones as well.

[mmcnx2]

Thats not a holster it is a barrel condom.

I'd second the vote for spend a few bucks a get a real holster.

[selurcspi]

That looks like a "Classic" Ernie Hill Speed leather rig and providing it holds the gun while you're running, it will be fine for the steel shoots. When that came out, it gave the top shooters about a 1 tenth of a second advantage over the askins avenger that lots of other shooters were using. For you, I wouldn't anticipate that much

[rugersol]

it will be fine for the steel shoots.

providing it holds the gun while you're running

Why's he running, with the gun in his holster?

[plblark]

For the Man V MAn stages, both shooters start with shoulders against the same post. On the signal, the shoooters run to their boxes and THEN draw.

[rugersol]

For the Man V MAn stages, both shooters start with shoulders against the same post. On the signal, the shoooters run to their boxes and THEN draw.

Interesting! ... young man's game, eh?

Can't turn downrange, draw, THEN run?

[plblark]

If you want to stop and go home you can I don't recommend it.

The steel shoots and the Man V Man are intended as entry level competition. As such, I think Benny and China have done a good job of distilling the rules down to the essential and stripping out some of the opportunities for a newer shooter to make an unsafe mistake.

[rugersol]

If you want to stop and go home you can I don't recommend it.

The steel shoots and the Man V Man are intended as entry level competition. As such, I think Benny and China have done a good job of distilling the rules down to the essential and stripping out some of the opportunities for a newer shooter to make an unsafe mistake.

We get new shooters all the time ... sometimes they come with the super-cheap one-size-fits-all nylon holsters ... don't matter much ... I don't know that we've EVER had a course where they had to run with the gun holstered ... don't want a hot gun bouncing out ... for ANY reason. If we have any running prior to handling the gun, we stage it on a table ... and they run to it. USPSA is a nationwide deal ... most clubs do this sorta thing the same.

I thought someone (Benny?) was experienced with USPSA? I would think he'd allow the same sorta thing. Jest askin' if he did 'er didn't. If he did, then that might be preferable fer the OP. If not, I'd at least keep my hand rested on top of the gun, while moving to the box ... and/or, get a kydex holster.

[plblark]

I've never been at a match where two shooters on the line att he same time race to their starting points with guns drawn. I think that figures into the setup some. You've got 2 shooters and 2 RO's and spectators all in a small area ... saving the draw for the defined boxes and target direction simplifies the geometry and possible bad directions immensely.

[rugersol]

I've never been at a match where two shooters on the line att he same time race to their starting points with guns drawn. I think that figures into the setup some. You've got 2 shooters and 2 RO's and spectators all in a small area ... saving the draw for the defined boxes and target direction simplifies the geometry and possible bad directions immensely.

I presumed the start-position was along the 180 to both boxes? ... or otherwise angled away from each other such that a 180 violation wouldn't cover the other shooter?

If not, obviously if ya've got some distance to cover to get to the 180, one guy could conceivably be downrange of the other, to some degree.

[Snowgun]

.. or otherwise angled away from each other such that a 180 violation wouldn't cover the other shooter?

yes.

Both start shoulders against same post (one left, one right), then run about 45 degrees out to each box. Once in box, it's draw, shot 3 poppers, mandatory reload, shoot final popper.

You are allowed to hold the gun in the holster while running, providing no drawing till in the box.

I'd still get a real (contemporary) holster though...Even if they were using these things in the 1920's for action shooting.

[MrVvrroomm]

I presumed the start-position was along the 180 to both boxes? ... or otherwise angled away from each other such that a 180 violation wouldn't cover the other shooter?

If not, obviously if ya've got some distance to cover to get to the 180, one guy could conceivably be downrange of the other, to some degree.

Here's a video of Brad vs. Nate at last week's match. Pretty much sums it up.

http://youtu.be/KoY5EBXPwbM

[rugersol]

I presumed the start-position was along the 180 to both boxes? ... or otherwise angled away from each other such that a 180 violation wouldn't cover the other shooter?

If not, obviously if ya've got some distance to cover to get to the 180, one guy could conceivably be downrange of the other, to some degree.

Here's a video of Brad vs. Nate at last week's match. Pretty much sums it up.

http://youtu.be/KoY5EBXPwbM

Thanks ... that helped immensely!

... can't see the other foot ... but it would appear there's an "midair" 'er "two-step" exception?

"midair" 'er "two-step" exception?