HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby Hammer99... on Mon May 23, 2011 8:36 am

RobD wrote:Correct, But Cornish had to engage Paymar and Mullery, and just had to get the last word. Senator Hoffman didn't plan on getting into that kind of a pissing contest.


I know, right. They went on for 90 minutes and I bet they didn't sway a single vote.
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby ComradeBurg on Mon May 23, 2011 9:03 am

It's nice to see our "representatives" are working hard to avoid giving us more legal protections if we should ever have to rely on ourselves instead of the state to defend our lives. For a minute there I was worried they may prove my assumptions incorrect and actually do something that would benefit the people of this state.
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby futbol79 on Mon May 23, 2011 11:37 am

I sent an e-mail to all of them! Now for the phone calls.
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby futbol79 on Mon May 23, 2011 11:38 am

I sent them all e-mails. Now to call!
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby nyffman on Mon May 23, 2011 11:46 am

It's the last day of the regular session. They don't appear to be near a budget agreement. What do you think the chance are of them spending time on a self defense bill which Dayton has already indicated he does not support?
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby plblark on Mon May 23, 2011 11:48 am

They've had a bill ready to go since the 14th. the HF was read into the Senate on the 17th. They have sat on it for a week...
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby plblark on Mon May 23, 2011 11:50 am

Here's what I sent to Senator Thompson, a good guy who supported the bill. I e-mailed the other senate leaders asking them what they, in their capacity of [insert job title] could tell me about why this hadn't passed yet ...



Senator Thompson,

I appreciated your YES vote on SF 1357 in the Senate Judiciary and Public Safety Committee. I especially appreciated your efforts to comment on the bill AND get back for the vote, literally running back to support this bill. This is indeed a common sense bill and all the theatrics are unnecessary.

This bill has been ready to be heard for over a week! It passed out of the final committee on the 14th and the House file was substituted on general orders on 5/17. The Republican Majority has enough votes to pass it even without out state Pro-Gun Democrats in the Senate. Activists and staff have worked tirelessly and been available for the last week, taking time from their families, jobs, and other interests.

I remain baffled why the Leadership would not allow this bill to be heard and voted on. Even fearing a Veto, let Gov Dayton do the work of killing this bill and reap the reward. May I remind you that Gov Dayton spoke at the Anoka County Game Fair and proclaimed himself a 2nd Amendment Candidate? Let HIM put the lie to those words. Don't do his work for him. Let the Democrats take a stand and a vote and allow their constituents to see where they stand. I guarantee the word will get out to their constituents.Turn their opposition into a POSITIVE for your party and for the citizens of MN if necessary but don't kill this bill through inaction.

Thank you for your consideration,
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby RAGGED on Mon May 23, 2011 1:55 pm

Who specifically do we have to razzle right now?
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby macphisto on Mon May 23, 2011 2:00 pm

RAGGED wrote:Who specifically do we have to razzle right now?

Republican leadership in the Senate

Majority Leader Amy Koch
(651) 296-5981
sen.amy.koch@senate.mn

Deputy Majority Leader Geoff Michel
(651) 296-6238
sen.geoff.michel@senate.mn

Assistant Majority Leader David Hann
(651) 296-1749
http://www.senate.mn/members/member_ema ... em_id=1016
You might want to mention to Senator Hann that forcing correspondents to use a web form is NOT very convenient or service-oriented)

Assistant Majority Leader Doug Magnus
(651) 296-5650
sen.doug.magnus@senate.mn

Assistant Majority Leader David Senjem
(651) 296-3903
sen.david.senjem@senate.mn

Assistant Majority Leader Dave Thompson
(651) 296-5252
sen.dave.thompson@senate.mn

Majority Whip Chris Gerlach
(651) 296-4120
sen.chris.gerlach@senate.mn

President of the Senate Michelle Fischbach
(651) 296-2084
sen.michelle.fischbach@senate.mn

President Pro Tem Gen Olson
(651) 296-1282
sen.gen.olson@senate.mn

All at once (except for Hann):
sen.amy.koch@senate.mn, sen.geoff.michel@senate.mn, sen.doug.magnus@senate.mn, sen.david.senjem@senate.mn, sen.dave.thompson@senate.mn, sen.chris.gerlach@senate.mn, sen.michelle.fischbach@senate.mn, sen.gen.olson@senate.mn

Or with semicolons (except for Hann):
sen.amy.koch@senate.mn; sen.geoff.michel@senate.mn; sen.doug.magnus@senate.mn; sen.david.senjem@senate.mn; sen.dave.thompson@senate.mn; sen.chris.gerlach@senate.mn; sen.michelle.fischbach@senate.mn; sen.gen.olson@senate.mn
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby hammAR on Mon May 23, 2011 4:05 pm

Done...............
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby DeanC on Mon May 23, 2011 8:38 pm

Wonder if the e-mails even went through?

Gay marriage action alert crashes Senate e-mail

Now there is some serious activism.
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby farmerj on Mon May 23, 2011 8:51 pm

DeanC wrote:Wonder if the e-mails even went through?

Gay marriage action alert crashes Senate e-mail

Now there is some serious activism.



Likely what crashed the entire state this morning.
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby gyrfalcon on Tue May 24, 2011 11:30 am

DeanC wrote:Wonder if the e-mails even went through?

Gay marriage action alert crashes Senate e-mail

Now there is some serious activism.


Are they still using Lotus Notes for email? A quarter of a million messages in a 12 hours period is pretty much nothing... ~326 messages a minute, or 5 emails a second, oooh wowie! If that's all it takes to challenge them, they should be fired and email should be outsourced to China (I mean IBM). :twisted:
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby ComradeBurg on Tue May 24, 2011 12:10 pm

gyrfalcon wrote:
DeanC wrote:Wonder if the e-mails even went through?

Gay marriage action alert crashes Senate e-mail

Now there is some serious activism.


Are they still using Lotus Notes for email? A quarter of a million messages in a 12 hours period is pretty much nothing... ~326 messages a minute, or 5 emails a second, oooh wowie! If that's all it takes to challenge them, they should be fired and email should be outsourced to China (I mean IBM). :twisted:


At least we found a functional denial of service attack against the state should we ever need it.
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Re: HF 1467- The most important update to MN gun law since MCPPA

Postby jgalt on Tue May 24, 2011 12:44 pm

ComradeBurg wrote:
gyrfalcon wrote:
DeanC wrote:Wonder if the e-mails even went through?

Gay marriage action alert crashes Senate e-mail

Now there is some serious activism.


Are they still using Lotus Notes for email? A quarter of a million messages in a 12 hours period is pretty much nothing... ~326 messages a minute, or 5 emails a second, oooh wowie! If that's all it takes to challenge them, they should be fired and email should be outsourced to China (I mean IBM). :twisted:


At least we found a functional denial of service attack against the state should we ever need it.


A denial of service attack is designed to prevent the person or group being attacked from accomplishing anything. I don't think we need any technology to accomplish this - they seem to be doing a pretty good job of this on their own... ;)
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