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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby justaguy on Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:27 am

If you want to reward Republican mediocrity vote McCain. By him winning it only furthers the weakening of the party. It is pretty sad that I have to make a decision like this. I think it is a loose, loose situation. Either way I loose it is just to what degree do I want to loose. I don’t want the Republican Party to keep producing “Dem Lites” and winning. I also don’t want to see how much destruction Sillery can do in 4 years.
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Re: McCain?

Postby princewally on Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:55 am

Tabsr wrote:Anybody that believes Obama or Hillary will support you Bill of Rights are delusional.


Ditto for McCain.
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby 1911fan on Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:39 am

Again, so McCain is slight to the left of your position, Do you believe that any the DNC can put forward is better than McCain?

Does anyone here think that voting for Hillary or bambam is a good thing.

Remember your vote does matter, The First W win was by a hand full of votes, and not just in florida. He won florida by just 327 confirmed votes. Just coincidentally, we have 343 Votes on this forum.

Gore won New mexico by less than 400 votes, W won and lost several states by 2 thousand or so vote either way.
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby hammAR on Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:46 am

Electile Dysfunction: the inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president put forth by either party in the 2008 election year.
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby justaguy on Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:02 am

1911fan wrote:Again, so McCain is slight to the left of your position, Do you believe that any the DNC can put forward is better than McCain?

Does anyone here think that voting for Hillary or bambam is a good thing.

Remember your vote does matter, The First W win was by a hand full of votes, and not just in florida. He won florida by just 327 confirmed votes. Just coincidentally, we have 343 Votes on this forum.

Gore won New mexico by less than 400 votes, W won and lost several states by 2 thousand or so vote either way.


I don’t think anyone would vote for the Dems. I think we are talking about write ins. I think at least for me maybe.
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby princewally on Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:11 am

justaguy wrote:
I don’t think anyone would vote for the Dems. I think we are talking about write ins. I think at least for me maybe.


I argue against not voting. There are many offices other than President that need a conservative.

I'll vote for every office. The way it stands right now, the Presidential vote will be a write-in or a Libertarian. McCain has ~nine months to convince me to do otherwise.
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby 1911fan on Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:32 am

a Write in IS a vote for the opposition.
IN the 2000 election
Bush lost Iowa because 5731 people voted for a lost cause in Pat Buchanan.
Gore lost the election in Florida because Ralph Nader took 97,ooo votes.
Bush Lost Wisconsin because Buchanan absorbed 11,000 votes in a State decided by 5,000 votes.
Bush lost Oregon to Gore by 6755 votes, 7063 voted Buchanan.

Voting 3rd party may seem like a power vote, but its a lost vote, its not listened to unless you can that number in the polls up to 28-20 percent, and give people the idea that it might work. (Look at Jesse's numbers as evidence to this.
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby cobb on Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:42 am

a Write in IS a vote for the opposition.
No, it is a vote for my conservative candidate and not a liberal RINO.

A different thought.
So if some how and reason, Clinton or Oboma switched from the Democratic Party to the Republican party and beats out McCain as the Republican nomination, there are those here that will vote for them because they now have a "R" behind their name?

Sad. :cry:

Or another really different thought and I usually get myself into big trouble when I do this.
I am in a bad accident, lost both legs and both arms. Now the only way the expert say that I can survive is to have a surgery that may result in the loss of my vision, speech and probably my hearing. So my option is to vote for the surgery or do my write in vote of no surgery. Some will say that I have only one choice, the surgury or I will lose what I have left of a life. I guess it all depends on how you want to live, what chances you need to take to live or not live with yourself.
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby 1911fan on Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:30 pm

I disagree,

A write in vote is a protest vote in all but a very few cases.

Using your medical scenario. You have a compound fracture of the leg, your options are surgery with a cast for a couple of months, or no surgery and a cast for 10 months, during which you will lose your job and your insurance.

You decided that you did not like either option and opt to cut the leg off and throw it away.


The time to Vote for your candidate of CHOICE is during the primary/caucus period. The time to vote for the best remaining option is during the general election.

A write in for Ron Paul or Fred Thompson is a vote in the general election is a vote for Billary/bambam.
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby justaguy on Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:50 pm

1911fan wrote:Voting 3rd party may seem like a power vote, but its a lost vote, its not listened to unless you can that number in the polls up to 28-20 percent, and give people the idea that it might work. (Look at Jesse's numbers as evidence to this.


How do you get the numbers up to 28-20 percent by voting for McCain? I see the reasoning of what people are saying about the Dems winning doesn’t help. The way I see it is the Republicans will keep producing what they have being because it wins. I don’t want what has been happening to keep happening. I want someone to step up and protect the Constitution. That will never happen if I keep voting for sorry politicians that don’t give a **** about the Constitution. Slow erosion of the Constitution is still erosion. Given enough time we will end up in the same place it is only a matter of time how long.
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby cobb on Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:06 pm

1911fan wrote:I disagree,

A write in vote is a protest vote in all but a very few cases.

A write in for Ron Paul or Fred Thompson is a vote in the general election is a vote for Billary/bambam.

I guess we are going to have to agree that we disagree.

I am impressed that you been paying attention to some that I post, or was the fact that I was going to write in Fred Thompson a lucky guess? 8-)
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby hammAR on Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:48 pm

All together now folks: I'D RATHER OPEN A VEIN THAN VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!

The Washington Times

The straw poll of activists at the 35th annual Conservative Political Action Conference showed resistance to Mr. McCain remains strong among conservatives and did not change much with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's suspension of his campaign Thursday.

Before Mr. Romney dropped out, 14 percent said they would not vote, 22 percent said they would vote for someone else and 62 percent said they would back Mr. McCain. After the Romney announcement, 10 percent said they would not vote, 19 percent said they would vote for someone else and 70 percent said they would vote for Mr. McCain...

...Issues matter more to Mr. Romney's backers than Mr. McCain's, said Mr. Fabrizio, noting that 63 percent of Romney supporters said a presidential candidate's position on issues mattered most in deciding on whom to vote for, compared with only 42 percent of Mr. McCain's supporters who said that...

...On successive days, featured speakers former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and syndicated columnists Robert Novak and George F. Will cited that commitment to principles first. Each gave reasons for supporting Mr. McCain, the probable GOP presidential nominee, despite his former opposition to President Bush's tax cuts and his support of campaign-finance restrictions, an immigration bill widely derided as amnesty, the proposed Law of the Sea Treaty and a sweeping measure against global warming.

A reason cited often by many speakers was that the next president will almost surely get to name several Supreme Court justices along with hundreds of lower-level federal judges. But Massachusetts Republican state committee member Bob Semonian said Mr. McCain was unreliable on the issue, calling it "important to note [former New Hampshire Sen.] Warren Rudman was McCain's national campaign chairman in 2000 and the chief sponsor for David Souter's appointment to the Supreme Court."


Go drink your own damned Kool-Aid........................Klinton/Osamabama here we come!

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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby princewally on Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:58 pm

hammAR wrote:
Go drink your own damned Kool-Aid........................Klinton/Osamabama here we come!

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Shouldn't the blame be getting placed on the non-conservative candidates and their counterparts in the GOP leadership? If they offer us crap, and push the crap on us, instead of promoting the actual conservatives, can't we blame them for screwing up the entire situation?
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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby hammAR on Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:21 pm

princewally wrote:Shouldn't the blame be getting placed on the non-conservative candidates and their counterparts in the GOP leadership? If they offer us crap, and push the crap on us, instead of promoting the actual conservatives, can't we blame them for screwing up the entire situation?

And what about the rest of the Republicans? McCain's "Independent" supporters are liberals - democrats for the most part - who like his exceedingly liberal voting record. Well, who in the hell are they going to vote for in November when faced with the choice of the most Liberal senator in the Senate, or the guy who's merely the most Liberal Republican in the Senate? Got news for you: those folks are here just to get this turd past the Primary; after that, just like the Liberal press he's been allied with for so long, they too will abandon McCain for the real Liberal. McCain will lose in November by at least 8 percentage points, is my guess....All Hail Osamabama :twisted:

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Re: Time to Shut Up, Suck It Up and Vote for McCain?

Postby Old Dude on Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:58 pm

It seems to me the Republicans are doing what the Democrats have historically done--form a firing squad in a circle.
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