Obama to release new gun control meausres?

[rugersol]

I gotta ask ... why are you so hell-bent on discrediting the NRA?

I already told you before - I have 2 memberships.

You love the NRA so much, why don't you marry them?

Where were they when we should have been commenting on this proposed rule change?

So 'cause you supposedly have "2 memberships", you can trash-talk 'em all ya want, and no one else can question yer allegiance?

I took the liberty of editing out your juvenile comment.

What "rule change" is it you think we should be commenting on? ... and where exactly should the NRA be, whilst we do?


here's the rest of what I wrote, that you neglected to answer ...

Apparently, the NRA thinks this is worth spending money on a lawsuit on...

Always late to the party. Sort of like Heller.

So they're either "always late" ... or they "raise the alarm" too early or often?

Ever occur to you that some of this stuff don't "pan out" 'cause they DID "raise the alarm" early and often?

Would it make you feel better if the rest of us canceled out memberships?

Is there some other organization we should be donating to?

We've obviously made tremendous strides in recent years ... you seem to suggest the NRA's had absolutely nothing to do with any of it? Who, then?!

You seem to be claiming the NRA's full of ****? But all you have to support that is claims that they haven't actually helped us ... and you haven't named the Pro-Gun Fairy otherwise responsible?

You claim their "alarms" don't pan out? ... isn't that the point of raising an alarm?

I don't think the NRA's the one that's full of ****!

Do you have any kind of evidence, whatsoever ... a paper-trail? ... suggesting anyone with the NRA is knowingly misrepresenting the facts, in some sort of conspiracy to scare people into donating more money?

'Til you do, maybe ya'd have better luck with yer rhetoric on a different forum ... like MnAntiGunTalk?

[hammAR]

Obama Administration Approves Illegal Multiple Sales Reporting Requirement

On Monday, the Justice Department announced that it will proceed with a controversial reporting procedure that will require federally licensed firearms retailers in states bordering Mexico to report multiple sales of semi-automatic rifles.

Last fall, the reporting procedure was proposed as an “emergency" measure by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The procedure specifically calls for all of the firearm retailers in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas to report multiple sales, or other dispositions, of two or more .22 caliber or larger semi-automatic rifles that are capable of accepting a detachable magazine and that are purchased by the same individual within five consecutive business days. For example, a dealer would have to tell the government every time a deer hunter in Sacramento or Amarillo finds a good deal on a pair of semi-auto .30-06s like the popular Remington 7400.

The BATFE has no legal authority to demand these reports, and the flood of new paperwork (BATFE estimates 18,000 reports per year) will waste scarce law enforcement resources that should be spent on legitimate investigations.

Deputy Attorney General James Cole said in the DOJ statement that this new reporting measure “will improve the ability of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to detect and disrupt the illegal weapons trafficking networks responsible for diverting firearms from lawful commerce to criminals and criminal organizations.”

As anyone who watches the news is aware, the BATFE has recently come under intense scrutiny due to its involvement in, and handling of, the ill-conceived and ill-fated “Fast and Furious” operation. "Fast and Furious" was a part of the five-year-old "Project Gunrunner" program and encouraged Arizona gun stores to sell thousands of guns to suspicious buyers, despite objections from dealers and BATFE field agents alike.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) called the new policy "the height of hypocrisy," and said the Obama administration is restricting the gun rights of border state citizens "when the administration knowingly and intentionally allowed guns to be trafficked into Mexico.” Smith went on to say, “Limiting the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens is not going to solve the problem."

Earlier this year, the U.S. House of Representatives voted on and passed, by a vote of 277 to 149, an amendment to H.R. 1 offered by Reps. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.) and Dan Boren (D-Okla.) that prohibits the use of federal funds for the reporting scheme.

Unfortunately, the amendment was not included in the final version of the bill as a result of Senate inaction. In March, U.S. Sens. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) and Richard Burr (R-N.C.) introduced legislation (S. 570) “to prohibit the Department of Justice from tracking and cataloguing the purchases of multiple rifles and shotguns." The bill would prohibit the use of federal funds for a multiple sales reporting scheme proposed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Please contact your Senator and encourage him or her to cosponsor S. 570 to stop this blatant abuse of power. You can reach your Senators at (202) 224-3121 or send them an e-mail by clicking here.

Commenting on the DOJ announcement, NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox said, “$40 billion transnational criminal enterprises don't fill out paperwork and are not deterred by paperwork violations. This is a blatant effort by the Obama administration and ATF to divert the focus of Congress and the general public from their gross incompetence in the 'Fast and Furious' scandal. This scheme will unjustly burden law abiding retailers in border states. It will not affect drug cartels and it won't prevent violence along our borders. The BATFE and the Administration lack the statutory authority to do this and the NRA will file suit as soon as BATFE sends the first demand letters.”

This email is a broadcast email generated by an automated system. To contact NRA-ILA call 800-392-8683.

[nyffman]

I personally think Obama has his hands full with finished the destruction of our economy. I doubt he'll move on to doing much else until that mission is accomplished.

[Rev. Dead Corpse]

Where were they when we should have been commenting on this proposed rule change?

The original alert went out months ago from the NRA-ILA. This rule change is coming via illegal EO since the current administration couldn't get it pushed through via normal channels.

[infidel]

Nothing to see here, move along.....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-e ... gun-rules/

[DeanC]

What "rule change" is it you think we should be commenting on? ... and where exactly should the NRA be, whilst we do?

At least somebody wasn't asleep at the switch. Too bad they don't have bazillions of dollars to spam everyone like the NRA: http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/20 ... orrow.html

[DeanC]

The original alert went out months ago from the NRA-ILA.

I really don't remember that. I could be wrong though.

[Rev. Dead Corpse]

The original alert went out months ago from the NRA-ILA.

I really don't remember that. I could be wrong though.

Yep.

From February: http://www.nramedia.org/t/33882/6933534/1715/0/

From Last December: http://www.nraila.org/GrassrootsAlerts/Read.aspx?ID=584

Still more: http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=14566

Do a Google search for "NRA-ILA Alert ATF rules change". There are a quite a few links on just the first page. All pertaining to the multi-gun sales rules change Zero now wants to implement via EO.

[hammAR]

House Committee Passes Amendment to Defund Illegal Obama Firearm Sales Reporting Requirement

Today, during consideration of the FY 2012 Commerce, Justice, Science Appropriations bill, pro-gun U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.) offered an amendment to prohibit the use of funds for a new and unauthorized multiple sales reporting plan proposed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The Amendment was passed by a vote of 25-16.

The Rehberg Amendment, which was strongly supported by NRA, will defund the Justice Department’s controversial and illegal move requiring federally licensed firearms retailers in states bordering Mexico to report multiple sales of semi-automatic rifles.

As we reported yesterday, this procedure was proposed last fall as an “emergency" measure by BATFE. Specifically, it calls for all of the firearm retailers in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas to report multiple sales, or other dispositions, of two or more .22 caliber or larger semi-automatic rifles capable of accepting a detachable magazine purchased by a single individual in a five consecutive business day period. It is important to note that under existing law, BATFE already has full access to every dealer’s firearm transaction records, either during a bona fide criminal investigation or simply to enforce compliance with record keeping requirements. This new reporting procedure would create a registry of owners of many of today's most popular rifles--firearms owned by millions of Americans for self-defense, hunting and other lawful purposes. Most importantly, however, the BATFE has no legal authority to demand these reports.

In addition, the agency has recently come under intense scrutiny due to its ill-conceived “Fast and Furious” operation. "Fast and Furious" encouraged Arizona gun stores to sell thousands of guns to suspicious buyers, despite objections from dealers and even BATFE’s own field agents.

Earlier this year, the U.S. House of Representatives voted on and passed, by a vote of 277 to 149, an amendment to H.R. 1 (also offered by Rep. Rehberg, along with Rep. Dan Boren (D-Okla.)) that also would have prohibited the use of federal funds for this reporting requirement. Unfortunately, the amendment was not included in the final version of the bill as a result of Senate inaction.

In March, U.S. Sens. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) and Richard Burr (R-N.C.) introduced S. 570--“to prohibit the Department of Justice from tracking and cataloguing the purchases of multiple rifles and shotguns." The bill would ensure that federal funds cannot be used for the multiple sales reporting procedure.

NRA will continue to work to make sure the Rehberg Amendment makes it through the appropriations process. The amendment is scheduled to be heard on the House floor in August.

While the Rehberg Amendment is a critically important first step, it is imperative that you contact your U.S. Senators and ask them to cosponsor and support S. 570. You can find contact information for your elected officials by using the "Write Your Representatives" tool at http://www.NRAILA.org, or you can call your U.S. senators at (202) 224-3121. S. 570 currently has 29 cosponsors. To see if your senators are cosponsors, please click here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... 00570:@@@P

This alert is posted at: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6989

[Rev. Dead Corpse]

House Committee Passes Amendment to Defund Illegal Obama Firearm Sales Reporting Requirement

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This alert is posted at: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6989

Yep. Got it last night in my inbox. Let's hope it sticks...

[DeanC]

The original alert went out months ago from the NRA-ILA.

I really don't remember that. I could be wrong though.

Yep.

From February: http://www.nramedia.org/t/33882/6933534/1715/0/

From Last December: http://www.nraila.org/GrassrootsAlerts/Read.aspx?ID=584

Still more: http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=14566

Do a Google search for "NRA-ILA Alert ATF rules change". There are a quite a few links on just the first page. All pertaining to the multi-gun sales rules change Zero now wants to implement via EO.

You'd think they would have asked members to submit comments on the rule rather just raising the alarm. But then, there's no money in that I guess.

[hammAR]

You'd think they would have asked members to submit comments on the rule rather just raising the alarm. But then, there's no money in that I guess.

Just can't make you happy.........
in stead of being disparaging and caustic all the time...
maybe you should run for the NRA Board and do something positive...........

Oh, and I am a NRA member and have a black friend........

[DeanC]

You'd think they would have asked members to submit comments on the rule rather just raising the alarm. But then, there's no money in that I guess.

Just can't make you happy.........
maybe you should run for the NRA Board and do something positive...........

Well some no-name putz with a blog was able to put up the link for comments. Why couldn't they? crickets

Even our unpaid local guys got the word out: http://www.carryforum.com/forum/viewtop ... 45&t=17217

I mean if this was really such a big serious scary issue? If Obama was really coming for our guns this time (we really mean it)

[hammAR]

......................No answers, just distraction and evasion........

[Heffay]

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