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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby CIBOIF on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:38 am

SparkyJeff wrote:Why not simply use an ad-blocking add-on, like ad-block plus?

Armslist looks like this without blocking the ads.
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Using ad-block plus Armslist looks like this
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Yes, well aware of ad blocking software. However that was not my point and blocking the ad's is like sticking your head in the sand or ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room. I just don't think armslist should submit to or whoring themselves to enemies of the Constitution just for advertisment bucks. Just a observation in this world of sell outs. Honor, integrity and moral courage are getting very hard to find.... :(
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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby Heffay on Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:32 pm

CIBOIF wrote:Yes, well aware of ad blocking software. However that was not my point and blocking the ad's is like sticking your head in the sand or ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room. I just don't think armslist should submit to or whoring themselves to enemies of the Constitution just for advertisment bucks. Just a observation in this world of sell outs. Honor, integrity and moral courage are getting very hard to find.... :(


I agree. A business like armslist shouldn't deal with ANY liberals, not even paying customers.
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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby SparkyJeff on Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:44 pm

CIBOIF wrote:Yes, well aware of ad blocking software. However that was not my point and blocking the ad's is like sticking your head in the sand or ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room...


For me, blocking the advertisements is like watching a movie without commercial interruptions.
I have been told, if an ad is blocked from being displayed on your screen, the website does not get credit for showing the ad. Some have said, the ad needs to be clicked for the site to benefit from placing the ad on their site.
If the advertisement didn't happen, nobody benefits from the advertisement.

I'm not sure if this is how it actually works, I honestly didn't care before, but now I'm curious.
can anyone help?

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CIBOIF wrote:Just a rant I guess but I did send armslist a message expressing my displeasure.

I'm curious if you received any response from armslist
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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby CIBOIF on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:17 pm

Heffay wrote:
CIBOIF wrote:Yes, well aware of ad blocking software. However that was not my point and blocking the ad's is like sticking your head in the sand or ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room. I just don't think armslist should submit to or whoring themselves to enemies of the Constitution just for advertisment bucks. Just a observation in this world of sell outs. Honor, integrity and moral courage are getting very hard to find.... :(


I agree. A business like armslist shouldn't deal with ANY liberals, not even paying customers.


Sigh... You right. Where do I pay your troll fee and I will move off your bridge. :roll:
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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby CIBOIF on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:21 pm

SparkyJeff wrote:
CIBOIF wrote:Yes, well aware of ad blocking software. However that was not my point and blocking the ad's is like sticking your head in the sand or ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room...


For me, blocking the advertisements is like watching a movie without commercial interruptions.
I have been told, if an ad is blocked from being displayed on your screen, the website does not get credit for showing the ad. Some have said, the ad needs to be clicked for the site to benefit from placing the ad on their site.
If the advertisement didn't happen, nobody benefits from the advertisement.

I'm not sure if this is how it actually works, I honestly didn't care before, but now I'm curious.
can anyone help?

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CIBOIF wrote:Just a rant I guess but I did send armslist a message expressing my displeasure.

I'm curious if you received any response from armslist



No response yet from Armslist
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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby Heffay on Tue May 01, 2012 12:12 am

CIBOIF wrote:
No response yet from Armslist


They probably don't respond to trolls.
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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby CIBOIF on Tue May 01, 2012 4:49 pm

Heffay wrote:
CIBOIF wrote:
No response yet from Armslist


They probably don't respond to trolls.


Actually I am the Troll Hunter and judging by your response(s), I should steady my aim for your next appearance. :twisted:
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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby fishdude on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:57 am

While Armslist does use a service provider that allows companies to directly place ads on their website, they also supplement those ads with generic ones in case they don't have full ad sponsorship. Ads that companies buy have to be throttled, because they are paying for a certain number of views or clicks (they are done both ways).

A company might buy $200 worth of advertising for a given month, which might get them 1000 clicks to their website. Once those are gone, their gone. They don't want all 1000 clicks the first two days, so they are rotated with other ads and spread out over the month.

The service provider knows approximately the number of page views and the number of clicks each ad will receive. If there aren't enough ads, they will mix in some generic ads, usually coming from a larger service like Google Ads or something similar. I have first hand experience creating ads for the Google network. The way they work is anyone can create any ad they want, targeting the keywords they choose. If someone chooses to show Google ads on their site, Google will read the page and match up ads with the keywords the advertisers specify. They don't always get it right (especially if it's directed through a third party service, which it looks like Armslist does.)

Just refreshing the page a few times, I saw ads for: P&G (in spanish), Bounty (also in Spanish), Samsung, and a prescription medication for thinning eyelashes. :?

I don't know if it's really Armslist's fault. I don't think their advertising partner is doing a very good job with matching up their generic ads to their site.
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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby LarryP on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:47 am

Not True- He is pushing the USA into the UN gun control act


ijosef wrote:...their advertising guy has a taste for irony? Who knows? Even though Obama's election caused the biggest gun buying panic in recent history, he hasn't done anything to take away our gun rights. I don't doubt for a minute that he is very pro gun control like many on the hard left, but Bill Clinton did a heck of a lot more than Obama has. Granted there's the Fast & Furious debacle which seemed to have been created to sew the seeds for a gun control push (and for which Attorney General Holder should've resigned in shame), but there hasn't been any gun control legislation passed.
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Re: Why does Armslist have banner ad's for Obama? WTF?

Postby Beelzebubba on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:36 pm

ijosef wrote:...their advertising guy has a taste for irony? Who knows? Even though Obama's election caused the biggest gun buying panic in recent history, he hasn't done anything to take away our gun rights. I don't doubt for a minute that he is very pro gun control like many on the hard left, but Bill Clinton did a heck of a lot more than Obama has. Granted there's the Fast & Furious debacle which seemed to have been created to sew the seeds for a gun control push (and for which Attorney General Holder should've resigned in shame), but there hasn't been any gun control legislation passed.


When you step back for a minute, and attempt clear your head of all the over-the-top Obama hatred we are constantly bombarded with, you realize the sky, in fact, has not fallen. Currently, we have more states with "shall issue" carry laws than we have ever had (well, in modern U.S. history, anyway), and compared to the rest of the "western" world, we have it pretty damn good when it comes to gun laws. I don't for a second give Obama credit for any of this, but he certainly is not the evil anti-gun socialist the far right and the NRA (of which I am a member and proud supporter) wants us all to believe. Given the ability to live out his deepest, most secret wishes, I don't doubt for a second we would have stricter gun control, but he has also stated on numerous occasions that he does support the second amendment (he sure as hell better, he's the president and sworn to uphold the constitution!) and he truly believes in the individual right to posses and bear arms. He has also said it should be up to the states to create "sensible" gun laws. Now "sensible" can mean many things to many people, and I doubt his idea of sensible would align with my own, but his public statements on the issue have been way better than many of the far left. The great "ammunition shortage" of '08 was all completely self inflicted. There was no logical reason for it to have occurred, and I hope we, as intelligent thinking adults, have the sense to not "shoot ourselves in the foot" again, so to speak, this time 'round. No matter how much he may (or may not) want to, he simply cannot reduce the second amendment to ashes overnight, and thanks to millions of diligent citizens and organizations such as the NRA, he wouldn't be allowed to. When it comes to gun rights, we are actually better off now than we were four years go. Think about it, really, we are. I wouldn't give Obama credit for it at all, but it's true. Has the current administration done (or attempted to do) some pretty bad and stupid things in the name of "gun control"? Yes, but when the NRA and others on the far right blow things so far out of perspective, they start to lose some credibility. That kind of over-the-top rhetoric also fuels the fire of the far left and the anti-gun zealots, which doesn't help us accomplish anything.

Not that anyone asked for it, but there's my $.02 (and then some - let the flames begin - although I'm not trolling, really)

Getting into topics outside of "gun control" I may get more worked up and anti-Obama, but there needs to be some perspective or we're going to do ourselves in again just like we did in '08. The media has a tendency to paint us as the crazies, and quite honestly, sometimes we do bring it on ourselves. Let's not add kindling for them - they will start fires.

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