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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby PRS on Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:31 am

I saw a lot of restraint... especially from one 6'2 officer throwing a 5'2, 19 girl to the ground as she walked to her apartment. restraint, good joke.
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby jshuberg on Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:05 am

I saw a 10 year old girl skipping rope picked up by a 7' tall cop on steroids and thrown off a 10 story building. Then he stomped her, set her on fire, and stole her teddy bear. True story, saw it myself. I Promise.
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby grousemaster on Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:07 am

Collector1337420 wrote:
chunkstyle wrote:
Actually, most of the violence I saw at the RNC was caused by the police.


Unfortunately, that's what I witnessed too. And I was there everyday.

One night, I was walking from where I parked my car to meet my buddy and girlfriend at a restaurant after I got off work. The cops had blockaded every intersection and I had to run and take alleys just to slip through their parameter before they mobilized enough guys to cover all the holes. When what should have been a short, leisurely 6 block walk, turned into an hour long 2 mile run; I finally got there, ate pizza and drank beer, watched the RNC Convention on TV, and discussed the military tactics the police were using.

It would take a lot to convince me we don't live in a Police State after that.



Why did you go there every day? To show your support for the RNC?
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby Collector1337420 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:05 pm

To witness and document the event.

Better question is, why would you not go?
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Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby xd ED on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:14 pm

Collector1337420 wrote:To witness and document the event.

Better question is, why would you not go?


What 'event' did you wish to witness and document; the RNC, or the maroons throwing piss bombs?

I avoided downtown that week much as I avoid No MPLS late at night. Just one of those stupid places/ people things.
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby Collector1337420 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:00 pm

To witness and document any and all events.
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Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby xd ED on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:09 pm

So how was the RNC?
Did you have a pass to get inside?
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby Collector1337420 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:55 pm

xd ED wrote:So how was the RNC?
Did you have a pass to get inside?


I would have, but I'm not rich or important enough.
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Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby jshuberg on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:04 pm

So then you have documentation of a cop throwing a girl down on the pavement for simply walking home from work? Please provide this documentation so we can all review it.
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby infidel on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:38 pm

Collector1337420 wrote:To witness and document the event.

Better question is, why would you not go?


:?

The better question was why did you go. Most people did not go. Did you file any complaints on illegal activity you may have witnessed? What exactly did you document?
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby Heffay on Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:05 pm

jshuberg wrote:So then you have documentation of a cop throwing a girl down on the pavement for simply walking home from work? Please provide this documentation so we can all review it.


If he saw it, and you are questioning it, are you calling him a liar?
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby Collector1337420 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:21 pm

infidel wrote:
Collector1337420 wrote:To witness and document the event.

Better question is, why would you not go?


:?

The better question was why did you go. Most people did not go. Did you file any complaints on illegal activity you may have witnessed? What exactly did you document?


Again, why not go? It's not like the RNC is in town everyday. So, I'm weird because I want to witness it myself and not rely on the liberal media? I could really care less what "most people" do or do not do. "Most people" are stupid. Just look at what happens when you open carry.

Why would I file any complaints? Maybe I would have if I thought there would be a point, but everyone here should know filing a complaint against a cop, especially multiple cops, isn't going anywhere. Cops all cover for each other. There's no point in wasting my time.

Like lots of people, I had a camera and took several pictures and videos. Some more interesting than others, one of the best being a picture of a group of riot cops goofing off, wasting our tax dollars.
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby Collector1337420 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:26 pm

PRS wrote:I saw a lot of restraint... especially from one 6'2 officer throwing a 5'2, 19 girl to the ground as she walked to her apartment. restraint, good joke.


Did you see this in St. Paul?

I witnessed something strikingly similar, but it was Minneapolis and at happened at night.

Why they needed that many cops in riot gear and some on horses even, in Minneapolis far from the RNC is beyond me.
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby xd ED on Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:54 pm

Collector1337420 wrote:
infidel wrote:
Collector1337420 wrote:To witness and document the event.

Better question is, why would you not go?


:?

The better question was why did you go. Most people did not go. Did you file any complaints on illegal activity you may have witnessed? What exactly did you document?


Again, why not go? It's not like the RNC is in town everyday. So, I'm weird because I want to witness it myself and not rely on the liberal media? I could really care less what "most people" do or do not do. "Most people" are stupid. Just look at what happens when you open carry.

Why would I file any complaints? Maybe I would have if I thought there would be a point, but everyone here should know filing a complaint against a cop, especially multiple cops, isn't going anywhere. Cops all cover for each other. There's no point in wasting my time.

Like lots of people, I had a camera and took several pictures and videos. Some more interesting than others, one of the best being a picture of a group of riot cops goofing off, wasting our tax dollars.


Again: If you weren't actually at the convention, What did you (intend?) to witness?
Certainly not the political process; that was inside with the rich and important folks(and quite a few local volunteers).
As to your photos, I'm sure I speak for most when I say we'd like to see them.
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Re: Department of Homeland Security expecting election violence?

Postby jshuberg on Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:18 pm

Why would I not go to the RNC? Mainly because I was not invited. I am not a party officer, nor was I a delegate, alternate, speaker, guest, staff, or authorized member of the press. Because of the nature of the event and individuals involved, security for the event is going to be extremely high, and they don't need a bunch of lookie-loos hanging out around the place with nothing to do. It was a private, invitation only event, and if you're not invited, or have any kind of business with the event, then you have absolutely no reason to be there.

Unfortunately, there were 3 different groups of people that showed up without an invitation:

1) People who are protesting something, and want to take advantage of the high visibility and political nature of the RNC, but left the designated protest area. While I absolutely support a persons right to peacefully assemble and petition for a redress of grievance, there is a proper place and time. A proper place and time was provided by the city and convention organizers, but a significant number of protestors left this area. Most of them were simply voicing the fact that they don't like Republicans anyway, which isn't actually a grievance but a personal opinion, and not worthy of any press attention.

2) Degenerate criminals who under the guise of free speech and freedom of assembly, combined with the anonymity provided by crowds, intend to cause as much trouble, damage as much property, and injure or embarrass as many people as possible. They are not there to protest. They are there to riot and to create anarchy. They are there to create conflicts with the police and get it on video so that they can claim police abuse. They are criminals, and every last one of them should be in prison. These are the folks who showed up with urine bombs and gas masks prepared for combat with the police.

3) People who were just there for the fun. They're not there to make a point of any kind, but simply for their own personal enjoyment. Maybe see something or someone cool or interesting. Maybe catch something on video. This is the vast majority of the people who show up at these kinds of events, and in my opinion the worst of all 3. These people are the crowd and anonymity required for the rioters to riot. These people are the fuel by which the riots to occur. These are the same people who slow down to a a crawl on the freeway so they can get a look at the car accident on shoulder, with complete disregard for all the people they are annoying and pissing off behind them. They believe their right to be entertained is more important than the security of the event, or even their own personal safety.

Where was I during the RNC? Exactly where I was supposed to be. Somewhere else, not causing any problems or tying up the resources of the police.
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