Presidential election observation and poll.

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Ron Paul
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby Jeff Bergquist on Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:31 pm

infidel wrote:Taxed Enough Already. The TEA Party has brought fiscal policy to the forefront, they were instrumental in winning back the House, and they helped bring the Senate to play this election.
I could see where someone who would be against having a Republican majority in the House would think the TEA Party has damaged this country.


IMO the tea party might have started out with an agenda of fiscal responsibility, But it looks to me like they've been co-opted by every right winger who thought they might be getting drowned out in the republican mainstream.
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby Snakeman721 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:28 pm

BOTH parties have been taken over by the extremists.....the religious whack jobs on the right for the Rs and the ultra liberal nut cases on the left for the Ds. The moderates on both sides have been pushed out by all the hostile "take no prisoners" mentality of the extremists from BOTH sides.
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby Heffay on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:06 pm

Jeff Bergquist wrote:
infidel wrote:Taxed Enough Already. The TEA Party has brought fiscal policy to the forefront, they were instrumental in winning back the House, and they helped bring the Senate to play this election.
I could see where someone who would be against having a Republican majority in the House would think the TEA Party has damaged this country.


IMO the tea party might have started out with an agenda of fiscal responsibility, But it looks to me like they've been co-opted by every right winger who thought they might be getting drowned out in the republican mainstream.


The Tea party is the conservative equivalent of the Occupy movement.
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby infidel on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:09 pm

The TEA Party is pretty simple. Too much taxes. They never lost sight of that platform. It is MSNBC, Mother Jones, Huff Report that want to portray them as moral majority, racists etc.

Anyone against the TEA Party is for a larger government, and higher taxes. Only the left portrays fiscal responsibility as whacked.
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby goett047 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:09 pm

They were called the American Taliban on HBO´s "The Newsroom" I might have applauded...
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby Heffay on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:10 pm

infidel wrote:The TEA Party is pretty simple. Too much taxes. They never lost sight of that platform. It is MSNBC, Mother Jones, Huff Report that want to portray them as moral majority, racists etc.

Anyone against the TEA Party is for a larger government, and higher taxes. Only the left portrays fiscal responsibility as whacked.


No. Most people who are opposed to the Tea party are because they realize what they actually are. You can oppose the Tea party and still be fiscally responsible. False duality, but I'm sure you don't care about that.
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby infidel on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:12 pm

Heffay wrote:
Jeff Bergquist wrote:
infidel wrote:Taxed Enough Already. The TEA Party has brought fiscal policy to the forefront, they were instrumental in winning back the House, and they helped bring the Senate to play this election.
I could see where someone who would be against having a Republican majority in the House would think the TEA Party has damaged this country.


IMO the tea party might have started out with an agenda of fiscal responsibility, But it looks to me like they've been co-opted by every right winger who thought they might be getting drowned out in the republican mainstream.


The Tea party is the conservative equivalent of the Occupy movement.


B.S.. The occupy movement wants to take what others have. The TEA Party wants you to do for yourself.
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby infidel on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:14 pm

Heffay wrote:
infidel wrote:The TEA Party is pretty simple. Too much taxes. They never lost sight of that platform. It is MSNBC, Mother Jones, Huff Report that want to portray them as moral majority, racists etc.

Anyone against the TEA Party is for a larger government, and higher taxes. Only the left portrays fiscal responsibility as whacked.


No. Most people who are opposed to the Tea party are because they realize what they actually are. You can oppose the Tea party and still be fiscally responsible. False duality, but I'm sure you don't care about that.


I don't think you know what they actually are. But I am willing to listen.
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby Heffay on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:20 pm

infidel wrote:I don't think you know what they actually are. But I am willing to listen.


I understand what you think they represent: Fiscal restraint. Lowering taxes. Balancing budgets.

However, that is not the only litmus test they apply when picking candidates in the primaries.
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby infidel on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:24 pm

Heffay wrote:
infidel wrote:I don't think you know what they actually are. But I am willing to listen.


I understand what you think they represent: Fiscal restraint. Lowering taxes. Balancing budgets.

However, that is not the only litmus test they apply when picking candidates in the primaries.


I agree with half of what you say here. :cheers:
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby grousemaster on Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:13 am

Heffay wrote:
infidel wrote:The TEA Party is pretty simple. Too much taxes. They never lost sight of that platform. It is MSNBC, Mother Jones, Huff Report that want to portray them as moral majority, racists etc.

Anyone against the TEA Party is for a larger government, and higher taxes. Only the left portrays fiscal responsibility as whacked.


No. Most people who are opposed to the Tea party are because they realize what they actually are. You can oppose the Tea party and still be fiscally responsible. False duality, but I'm sure you don't care about that.



Let us know what they actually are, I'd be interested to hear. IF they're the conservative equivalent to "Occupy", can you share with us some arrest statistics, treatment of public grounds, and interactions with peace officers? :?
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby jshuberg on Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:43 pm

Heffay wrote:The Tea party is the conservative equivalent of the Occupy movement.

Except that Tea party people bathe, very few have criminal records, they don't tend to rape people when they get together, and they leave a protest site in the same condition they found it in, rather than trash it. Oh, and they aren't trying to force the government into giving them other peoples money.

Yep, pretty much the same.... :roll:
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby mnmike59 on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:28 pm

jshuberg wrote:
Heffay wrote:The Tea party is the conservative equivalent of the Occupy movement.

Except that Tea party people bathe, very few have criminal records, they don't tend to rape people when they get together, and they leave a protest site in the same condition they found it in, rather than trash it. Oh, and they aren't trying to force the government into giving them other peoples money.

Yep, pretty much the same.... :roll:


Actually, They leave their areas cleaner than they left them. AND they peacefully demonstrate. Huh? Go figure. Great comparison.

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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby goett047 on Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:36 pm

Why prolong the inevitable? Why not just deal with it?
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Re: Presidential election observation and poll.

Postby selurcspi on Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:44 am

Well, here's 26 votes for Obama!!!
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