Assault rifles to be NFA registered?

[870TC]

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4254274

Feinstein suggests all "Assault Rifles" be put in the same class as full autos, and registered.

[Hmac]

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4254274

Feinstein suggests all "Assault Rifles" be put in the same class as full autos, and registered.

I've seen that tossed around. In fact, I've seen it speculated that Obama thinks he can do that by Executive Order. I don't know if it's likely, but I did just register another lower as an 11.5 SBR, and also just sent in a Form 1 for one of my 16 inch AR15's to register it as an 11.5 SBR. Now, I plan on checking with an NFA lawyer to convert those rifles to a trust on a Form 4, since I've seen it stated that the transfer of "assault weapons" will be illegal. If they're in a trust, any of the trustees can possess the weapon.

[Scratch]

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4254274

Feinstein suggests all "Assault Rifles" be put in the same class as full autos, and registered.

Uh.... That's already in place dummy. (feinstein... Not you)

I just don't understand how come they don't realize that the term "assault rifle" is a full auto, not a semi auto. I know the media knows this, how come nobody ever brings it up in a question?

[Hmac]

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4254274

Feinstein suggests all "Assault Rifles" be put in the same class as full autos, and registered.

Uh.... That's already in place dummy. (feinstein... Not you)

I just don't understand how come they don't realize that the term "assault rifle" is a full auto, not a semi auto. I know the media knows this, how come nobody ever brings it up in a question?

The fine points of weapon terminology are not part of your average politician's lexicon. Setting aside what she said, do you have any doubts as to what she meant? Even my wife knew what Carolyn McCarthy was talking about when she referred to "the shoulder thing that goes up".

Being sticklers for terminology at this, the media rhetoric stage, isn't going to save any of us from impending legislation. We can all rest assured that the definitions will be all worked out and comprehensive in the final bill that gets submitted.

[PRS]

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4254274

Feinstein suggests all "Assault Rifles" be put in the same class as full autos, and registered.

Uh.... That's already in place dummy. (feinstein... Not you)

I just don't understand how come they don't realize that the term "assault rifle" is a full auto, not a semi auto. I know the media knows this, how come nobody ever brings it up in a question?

The fine points of weapon terminology are not part of your average politician's lexicon. Setting aside what she said, do you have any doubts as to what she meant? Even my wife knew what Carolyn McCarthy was talking about when she referred to "the shoulder thing that goes up".

Being sticklers for terminology at this, the media rhetoric stage, isn't going to save any of us from impending legislation. We can all rest assured that the definitions will be all worked out and comprehensive in the final bill that gets submitted.

EXACTLY!!!!

[xd ED]

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4254274

Feinstein suggests all "Assault Rifles" be put in the same class as full autos, and registered.

Uh.... That's already in place dummy. (feinstein... Not you)

I just don't understand how come they don't realize that the term "assault rifle" is a full auto, not a semi auto. I know the media knows this, how come nobody ever brings it up in a question?

The fine points of weapon terminology are not part of your average politician's lexicon. Setting aside what she said, do you have any doubts as to what she meant? Even my wife knew what Carolyn McCarthy was talking about when she referred to "the shoulder thing that goes up".

Being sticklers for terminology at this, the media rhetoric stage, isn't going to save any of us from impending legislation. We can all rest assured that the definitions will be all worked out and comprehensive in the final bill that gets submitted.

YEP.

[jshuberg]

Here is the entire press conference:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/310086-1

Did I miss something somewhere? How is it she claims that there are devices that can be installed that will legally turn semi-autos into full-auto? I call total BS.

Also note: when they say social media they mean taxpayer funded government propaganda

[BuckKlier]

I think we are screwd!

[tman]

Did I miss something somewhere? How is it she claims that there are devices that can be installed that will legally turn semi-autos into full-auto? I call total BS.

For practical purposes, bump fire devices and cranks are the functional equivalent. Don't fool yourself.

[river_boater]

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4254274

Feinstein suggests all "Assault Rifles" be put in the same class as full autos, and registered.

Uh.... That's already in place dummy. (feinstein... Not you)

I just don't understand how come they don't realize that the term "assault rifle" is a full auto, not a semi auto. I know the media knows this, how come nobody ever brings it up in a question?

Because she's talking about this:

SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.
(a) In General- Section 921(a)(30) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended to read as follows:

(30) The term "semiautomatic assault weapon" means any of the following:

(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:

(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;
(ii) AR-10;
(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR;
(iv) AR70;
(v) Calico Liberty;
(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU;
(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC;
(viii) Hi-Point Carbine;
(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1;
(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
(xi) M1 Carbine;
(xii) Saiga;
(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800;
(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine;
(xv) SLG 95;
(xvi) SLR 95 or 96;
(xvii) Steyr AUG;
(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14;
(xix) Tavor;
(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or
(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof:

(i) Calico M-110;
(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3;
(iii) Olympic Arms OA;
(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or
(v) Uzi.

(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof:

(i) Armscor 30 BG;
(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12;
(iii) Striker 12; or
(iv) Streetsweeper.

(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has--

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a threaded barrel;
(iii) a pistol grip;
(iv) a forward grip; or
(v) a barrel shroud.

(E)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), a semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has--

(i) a second pistol grip;
(ii) a threaded barrel;
(iii) a barrel shroud; or
(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol grip.

(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has--

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip;
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.

(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

(J) A frame or receiver that is identical to, or based substantially on the frame or receiver of, a firearm described in any of subparagraphs (A) through (I) or (L).

(K) A conversion kit.

(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.".

(b) Related Definitions- Section 921(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:

(36) Barrel Shroud- The term "barrel shroud" means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel, but does not include a slide that encloses the barrel, and does not include an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or substantially encircle the barrel.

(37) Conversion Kit- The term "conversion kit" means any part or combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a firearm into a semiautomatic assault weapon, and any combination of parts from which a semiautomatic assault weapon can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.

(38) Detachable Magazine- The term "detachable magazine" means an ammunition feeding device that can readily be inserted into a firearm.

(39) Fixed Magazine- The term "fixed magazine" means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm.

(40) Folding or Telescoping Stock- The term "folding or telescoping stock" means a stock that folds, telescopes, or otherwise operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of a firearm.

(41) Forward Grip- The term "forward grip" means a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.

(42) Pistol Grip- The term "pistol grip" means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.

(43) Threaded Barrel- The term "threaded barrel" means a feature or characteristic that is designed in such a manner to allow for the attachment of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(a)).".

Just because she uses incorrect terminology during interviews doesn't mean there aren't dozens of her staffers working on the legalese, she knows exactly what she's doing and there are dark days ahead for all of us.

[adoptedson]

Puke.

[tman]

The other thing to realize is that the antis use the wrong terms on purpose to scare the uninformed.

Göbels would approve.

[JustPlainT]

With how many millions of AR-15s are in the national population, good luck with that registration scheme. Most of them will end up unregistered, and out in circulation still.

I don't see it happening. The more likely scenario (in my opinion) is a new AWB without being able to transfer grandfathered rifles/mags.

[Hmac]

With how many millions of AR-15s are in the national population, good luck with that registration scheme. Most of them will end up unregistered, and out in circulation still.

I don't see it happening. The more likely scenario (in my opinion) is a new AWB without being able to transfer grandfathered rifles/mags.

I agree. Rifles that fit the "assault weapon" criteria are the most popular long gun in the US and have been for several years. Getting one through the NFA process takes 6 months as it is right now. Major bureaucratic nightmare.

[photogpat]

With how many millions of AR-15s are in the national population, good luck with that registration scheme. Most of them will end up unregistered, and out in circulation still.

I don't see it happening. The more likely scenario (in my opinion) is a new AWB without being able to transfer grandfathered rifles/mags.

Why wouldn't it be like the 1994 version where no new production is allowed, but transfers still may occur.

There'd be no way to enforce the "no transfer" provision without mandatory registration of all "assault" weapons.