MN Bill making gun magazines of more than 10 shells illegal.

[Ron Burgundy]

(The correct answers, btw, are clips, glocks, and 9mm)

God bless your little pink heart

[jshuberg]

After reading those bills I was absolutely furious that anyone could possibly submit something so offensive. I wrote the following email to the committee. The tone was a good bit harsher than previous emails I've sent, but I believe that it conveys my opinion and frustration with what's happening:


Members of the MN House Public Safety Finance and Policy Committee,

I am writing you to let you know that I OPPOSE all of the bills that have been submitted concerning firearms restrictions. While I realize that criminals who resort to violence in their crimes will often use a firearm, you should focus your attention on the criminal and not on the tool. Trying to solve the problem of violence by infringing on the rights of law-abiding citizens is much too broad a stroke to solve the problem.

Quite simply, you do not have the authority to pass these bills. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Any attempt to pass these bills into law is an unconstitutional power grab that the people of Minnesota will never forgive. You do not have the authority to ban firearms any more than you have the authority to ban the practice of a religion or ban speech that you disagree with.

The US Supreme court in DC v. Heller stated that all firearms are protected by the 2nd Amendment against Government infringement except for those that are commonly used by criminals in crime, and not by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes. The weapons and their accessories that are being targeted in the bills before the legislature are in fact very commonly used by law abiding citizens for lawful purposes, myself included.

I have heard the term "sea change' used a lot since the Sandy Hook tragedy. I urge you, for the sake of your own careers, do not believe the hype that is being drummed up. There is no sea change of support for gun control, this is nothing more than propaganda. The fact that Gov. Cuomo suffered a 15% drop in his approval rating after the NY ban was passed is evidence of this. I have also heard the terms "reasonable", "common sense" and "balanced" used a lot. The people of Minnesota are smart enough to know that those words are nothing more than a smokescreen for illegal restrictions on their ability to exercise their constitutionally protected rights.

If those of you who support these bills continue to believe your own propaganda, and pass any of these bills info law, we the people of Minnesota will neither forget you nor forgive you. The passage of these bills would constitute no less than Government oppression and a blatant violation the rights of the people. This simply will not be tolerated. Any representative who votes to pass any of these bills will be targeted for removal from office in the next election, regardless of party or any other actions you may have taken while in office. Depriving the people of their constitutionally protected rights is a crime against the constitution and the people of Minnesota. I urge you to consider the gravity and seriousness of what is being considered.

The primary role of those who are elected to office is to act as a steward of our freedoms. Anyone in office who forgets this, or who trades on the freedom of the people for any reason betrays this most sacred of responsibilities. How you vote on these issues will be remembered.

Sincerely,

JShuberg

[sgruenhagen44]

Looking at history is an example. Think of all the screwed up ridiculous stuff that has happened. The holocaust, salem witch trials... Granted this is not in the same category as gun control but it is just an example of human stupidity and conformity. We had an AWB at one point why would it not happen again? I'm jsut askin for solid facts here mister pony. Not just your left wing opinion.

[minnhawk]

Betray:

I failed to mention I also pay Property taxes in AZ, but not in the valley. My brother lives in rural Texas. I still want to stay in minnesota but won't as a felon.

[XDM45]

Looking at history is an example. Think of all the screwed up ridiculous stuff that has happened. The holocaust, salem witch trials... Granted this is not in the same category as gun control but it is just an example of human stupidity and conformity. We had an AWB at one point why would it not happen again? I'm jsut askin for solid facts here mister pony. Not just your left wing opinion.

Why the heck would the pink one care? He's not in MN anyway. He has other issues to worry about that like corrupt sheriff.

[Heffay]

Looking at history is an example. Think of all the screwed up ridiculous stuff that has happened. The holocaust, salem witch trials...

Good job. I was wondering how long it would take someone to Godwin this thread.

[photogpat]

*AHEM*

Back on track people. The current focus is laws in MN and the BS bills currently being put forth in the legislature.

Watch for a GOCRA summary on the legislation shortly.

[ex-LT]

Actually, I remember a few things about Jesse..........

1) He called it as he saw it.
2) He succeeded on very little money for his campaign to win.
3) He has a PTC and carries.
4) When he won, all of the local stations were shuffling papers and stammering for things to say because they were unprepared for an Independent to win. They had 2 stacks of papers, one for Repub and one for Dem, that's it.
5) He actually got us money BACK when he was in office. There was a surplus.

There was that bill a few months ago that would have extended carriers rights, Castle Doctrine, Stand Your Ground and all of that... I don't know any Repub or Dem that would have signed it, or as quickly as Jesse would have had he been in as Gov. Likewise, do you think any of these proposed bills would stand a 1/16384th of a chance to pass with Jesse in office? Nope.

I liked the guy actually. Sure beats those career politicians.

What I remember about Jessie:

1) He was a pompas and arrogant ass.
2) He didn't suport anything that didn't benefit him directly. He was in favor of cutting license fees when he saw what tabs for his new Porsche cost him.
3) He was all for carry reform until he got his PTC and then the issue was dropped.
4) He only gave us a small portion of the surplus back and when the economy took a dump insisted it was our "patriotic duty" to pay higher taxes.
5) His ego wouldn't let him run for reelection because he knew he'd lose.

You hit the nail right on the head. He looked at every piece of legislation that crossed his desk and asked himself one question:

"What's in it for ME?"

If signing it didn't benefit him in some way, he vetoed it.

[PHATSPEED7x]

This bill really got me mad. I've sent e-mails, called, and prayed like hell that this **** don't get passed. If for some reason it does pass You can bet your ass I will be moving to a RED state. Lucky I don't have much keeping me in this state right now...

[archerychamp]

I maybe be taking this thread a little off track but we thought Obamacare would be ruled unconstitutional.... and it wasn't. As long as these bills are alive, they have a chance of passing. Fight 'em!

[PaperPuncher]

Phat: thank you for your energy and putting it where it belongs on this matter, and that is sending this bill back to them with a big red REJECTED stamp on it!

Archery: your point is exactly why I brought this all to everyones attention, and that is to get those of us that believe the bill is wrong working in alignment so as to do all we legally can to see that it doesnt pass. We can safely bet that the "other side" will grease all the palms they can to get the bill passed!

[TommyMN]

Can't we all just ignore the troll that is heffay. Don't feed him people.

[Heffay]

Can't we all just ignore the troll that is heffay. Don't feed him people.

But I'm not a troll. I'm a valuable contributing member of this forum.

[xd ED]

Can't we all just ignore the troll that is heffay. Don't feed him people.

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[TommyMN]

Can't we all just ignore the troll that is heffay. Don't feed him people.

But I'm not a troll. I'm a valuable contributing member of this forum.

Sorry but you are an troll. You repeat the same gibberish in twenty threads and then in the other you do nothing but jab at people to stir the pot.