EllisW wrote:How about we don't give up anything? How about they get nothing?
clauwitz wrote:I would like to put forth a proposal and see what everyone thinks about it. The liberals always talk about compromise as they get just some of what they want instead of all of it (at least that's how it seems to me). Well, how about we propose an actual compromise: change the law to remove make, model, and serial number from ATF 4473s and require a background check for all firearms transactions. Additionally, somehow make the background check system open to more businesses (not just FFL licensed dealers), thereby increasing competition for the "service" of doing a background check. This way the gun-grabbers get more background checks, but we get fewer places our serial numbers are recorded.
AgAuTHORITY wrote:Not good enough, let me correct it, "How about we don't give up anything? How about they give us suppressors"
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Holland&Holland wrote:Pretty certain we compromised in '34 and '68.
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I hear a lot about "compromise" from the gun-control camp ... except, it's not compromise.
Allow me to illustrate:
Let's say I have this cake. It is a very nice cake, with "GUN RIGHTS" written across the top in lovely floral icing. Along you come and say, "Give me that cake."
I say, "No, it's my cake."
You say, "Let's compromise. Give me half." I respond by asking what I get out of this compromise, and you reply that I get to keep half of my cake.
Okay, we compromise. Let us call this compromise The National Firearms Act of 1934.
This leaves me with half of my cake and there I am, enjoying my cake when you walk back up and say, "Give me that cake."
I say -- again: "No, it's my cake."
You say, "Let's compromise." What do I get out of this compromise? Why, I get to keep half of what's left of the cake I already own.
So, we compromise -- let us call this one the Gun Control Act of 1968 -- and this time I'm left holding what is now just a quarter of my cake.
And I'm sitting in the corner with my quarter piece of cake, and here you come again. You want my cake. Again.
This time you take several bites -- we'll call this compromise the Clinton Executive Orders -- and I'm left with about a tenth of what has always been MY DAMN CAKE and you've got nine-tenths of it.
Let me restate that: I started out with MY CAKE and you have already 'compromised' me out of ninety percent of MY CAKE ...
EllisW wrote:and please find a better way to refer to the opposition than "the liberals." I consider myself very socially liberal and I hate the Left in this country just as much as the Right. There are plenty of liberals who aren't total wingnuts like the nutbars trying to ban whatever scares them each week.
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