JeremiahMN wrote:2in2out wrote:JeremiahMN wrote:...To those mentioning CO and NY or whatever state... I live in MN and those laws don't affect me. The only thing happening here in MN is a skillfully played move by the left to get pro-gun folks worked up for political gain.
I'm not exactly the most politically savvy, and maybe that's why I don't understand how it helps liberals if all of this is just to force gun owners to be one-issue voters. Wouldn't we vote the liberals OUT of office?
As far as other states, I believe it does affect us. This is a foothold for legislative action on a national level. The chair of the MN Senate committee said that a gun ban was something for the federal government to consider. How appropriate - passing the buck on a controversial issue in Minnesota, yet supporting the idea at the same time.
No, one-issue/pro-gun conservatives will not vote out dems, there aren't enough of them. I'm a liberal, but at the office I'm surrounded by conservatives. There are only a couple that could care at all about any of these new gun laws that have been proposed. The majority of the conservatives I know say things like "Who needs a 30 round clip" or "Why shouldn't you have to get a background check to buy a gun". The type of people that have been showing up to these hearings and making noise, are similar to the people that wanted a ban on same sex marriage. They are similar in the fact that they are the fringe of the republican base, not the norm.
While there aren't enough pro-gun republicans to sweep dems out of office, there are likely enough of them to affect the primaries. (Since most people, republican or dem don't care about those either.) What the dems are hoping is that next election, they will get to run against the single issue pro-gun candidates who are considered to far out on the fringe to win the general election. Or even better yet for the dems, the pro-gun single issue candidates can't win the primary, but the gun activists won't be happy with that so they'll push them to run as a 3rd party . (Ask Norm Coleman how that worked out.)
If they were to pass any of the 3 bills that would make us felons for what we already own- there would be one heck of a ripple effect in the voting population. Almost every gun owner in the state has at least one gun that is affected by these bills.
You have a .22 pistol?? HF 243 outlaws your mags. You have a Marlin model 60 .22 rifle-- HF 241 makes you a felon if you don't register it. You have a Glock 19- one of the most popular handguns in the state and the nation- HF 242 and 243 make you a felon if you don't turn in your mags.
If the Spanneous background checks ended his career, as i read in an article-- i think these bills passing would cause alot more ended careers in swing districts and the governor. We have had some pretty good luck here in off year elections getting liberals out of office.
