The fight in MN is not over... For Thur-Fri 2/21-22:

[AR]

Watched the hearings. Our side looked good. I think some of the wind is out of the sails with the announcement that AW & Mag Cap are off the table.

What was new was some 'revisionist' history about Nazi Germany and Gun Confiscation. One senator mentioned he had some Holocaust survivors in his district and guns wouldn't have helped in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising....he was minimizing the armed citizenry idea. And the pro 2A woman kept going back and forth with him.....the snappy line she could have had available was....'They would have died on their feet instead of their knees'

Plus many of the Jews killed in WW2 were rounded up and shot in their local areas (eastern Europe) and not shipped off to camps, making armed resistance realistic. That Senator needs to get a ruler across his knuckles I think an apology is called for.

Also a new thought introduced in the Senate hearings was that we ALREADY HAVE HAD CONFISCATION in America during Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, when the police went door to door confiscating weapons.

I think there's a missed opportunity in not mentioning the Katrina / New Orleans confiscation....many in Law enforcement are very troubled by that event....it's an ir-refutable argument when debating background / checks & verification.....

We already have seen DOOR-TO-DOOR-CONFISCATION-OF-FIREARMS....just when they were needed the most....Explain that away Senator Fattass.

[Kelor]

I'm watching Andrew Rothman from the Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance at about the 2:30 mark of this afternoons hearing. He really did an excellent job.

[photogpat]

I gave the loaning a .44 Blackhawk to a hunting buddy story...that was my first time testifying - to those who watched how'd I do?

[bstrawse]

I gave the loaning a .44 Blackhawk to a hunting buddy story...that was my first time testifying - to those who watched how'd I do?

I'm biased, but I thought you did awesome!
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[Kelor]

+1

[xd9]

Here is how i responded to a family member who was spreading that fact arounf on facebook.


Ok, first of all, that picture proves you can’t believe all the crap floating around facebook and other internet social media sites. The fact that they put 1960 in that Internet meme was bad enough to show they were not trying too hard to get the factsright. The words “than killed in war… ever!” is vastly inaccurate due to the fact that would mean any war in the history of the world and mankind. That of course CAN’T be true and we all know that. I feel the meme was created to sensationalize gun violence to meet an agenda. The fact is the true number of Americans who have died in all American wars comes much closer to 1,300,000. But that is not my real point. The fact that this is portrayed as “more Americans have died from gunfire” and using a tragedy such as Sandy Hook to skew the facts. Even PolitiFact.com had to admit this…”We should note that these figures refer to all gun-fire related deaths -- not just homicides, but also suicides and accidental deaths. In 2011, about one-quarter of firearm-related deaths were homicides (about 8,300), according to FBI and CDC data. Using total firearm-related deaths makes the case against guns more dramatic than just using homicides alone”. See they used the word DRAMATIC. They want to use acts of gun violence to feed their hysteria but want to include many other factors into their equations. So you would say what about suicide? That makes up for quite a large number of deaths in the US with firearms. But let’s use Japan for example. Japan is frequently held up as a working example of gun control. Well in the past 15 years, 30,000 people in Japan take their own life EACH YEAR (or family members life too, they count that as suicide as well). That is more than double the suicide rate of the United States. So this goes to show that if people are bound and determined to do themselves harm, they will find a way, even if they don’t have guns to do it. (suicide by trains are popular in Japan I guess) So I would suggest taking suicides out of the statistics along with accidents and actions of legal intervention (death by cop for self defense perhaps). The overall number of violent gunfire related deaths is vastly lower. This makes the statements in the meme false IMHO. But you are entitled to your opinions.

The bearded sage who is a retired professor from Hamline (Vogal) said during today's hearing that firearms deaths in the United States have exceeded the deaths from all our wars.

WTF???????

That's a LOT of deaths! What is he smokin'?s.[/quote]


Here is how I responded to a relative of mine that was spreading that "fact"..

[brewerbob]

BTW, met some nice people this afternoon and got a few tips on reloading and 3 gun competition. Prohibitionist behind us in line. Thought her head was about to explode. Guess she didn't get the ticket pre-handout from protect minnesota.

[photogpat]

I gave the loaning a .44 Blackhawk to a hunting buddy story...that was my first time testifying - to those who watched how'd I do?

I'm biased, but I thought you did awesome!
b

Thanks buddy - I've spoken in public plenty of times, just not before a Government Committee. I was trying to remember the rules of order...address every response to the Chairman then the Senator....right?

"Mr. Chairman -- Senator Goodwin...no, I actually use dynamite when fishing" ...dang...thats what I should have said.

[xd9]

Ok that last post did quite come out right. I was trying to quote the question and my tablet messed up the formatting. But I think you got the point.

[Kelor]

I hope someone can put out a clip on the Jewish debate. That couldn't have been more damning and disgusting. I'd love to forward that to hundreds.

[bstrawse]

I hope someone can put out a clip on the Jewish debate. That couldn't have been more damning and disgusting. I'd love to forward that to hundreds.

Which debate portion? When Senator Cohen was questioning about the Warsaw Ghetto?
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[photogpat]

I hope someone can put out a clip on the Jewish debate. That couldn't have been more damning and disgusting. I'd love to forward that to hundreds.

I want that clip replayed as many times as humanly possible.

[farmer44mag]

I gave the loaning a .44 Blackhawk to a hunting buddy story...that was my first time testifying - to those who watched how'd I do?

I'm biased, but I thought you did awesome!
b

Thanks buddy - I've spoken in public plenty of times, just not before a Government Committee. I was trying to remember the rules of order...address every response to the Chairman then the Senator....right?

"Mr. Chairman -- Senator Goodwin...no, I actually use dynamite when fishing" ...dang...thats what I should have said.

I think you did alright-- i am just glad you guys could get there for those of us out staters.

[bstrawse]

I hope someone can put out a clip on the Jewish debate. That couldn't have been more damning and disgusting. I'd love to forward that to hundreds.

I want that clip replayed as many times as humanly possible.

Which clip? I can clip video
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[Kelor]

I hope someone can put out a clip on the Jewish debate. That couldn't have been more damning and disgusting. I'd love to forward that to hundreds.

I want that clip replayed as many times as humanly possible.

Which clip? I can clip video
B

It was right around 7:40 tonight, so I guess that would be 1:40 into the hearings.