Serious questions from gun owner re registration, other laws

[St. Olaf]

Just coming to ask an honest question does not make him a troll.

But he does sound like his mind is already made up......both sides on this issue usually have their minds made up, so that's nothing unusual.

Trouble is.....you can talk all day and nobody's gonna change their mind anyway.

I say instead of banning guns, we just ban the areas that cause all the trouble.

Give people a year to move out and then fence off the high crime areas with Kevlar fencing and let the ones that refused to move shoot each other until they run out of ammo.

Then the gun deaths will all but cease.

This will be dramatic and expensive, but.....(as I hear almost every day) if even one life can be saved, it's worth it.

[White Horseradish]

Possum may or may not be a troll. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I say instead of banning guns, we just ban the areas that cause all the trouble.

Give people a year to move out and then fence off the high crime areas with Kevlar fencing and let the ones that refused to move shoot each other until they run out of ammo.

Then the gun deaths will all but cease.

This will be dramatic and expensive, but.....(as I hear almost every day) if even one life can be saved, it's worth it.

I saw that movie. It was called "Escape form New York".

[XDM45]

1) There's no such thing as "gun death". I know that for a fact because my gun is an inanimate object without life. My gun has never lived, thus it can never die. There's no "hammer death" either. Perhaps what's meant by "gun death" is "death by gun", but let's look at that for a minute.... if someone gets stabbed to death, they say it as such and not as "death by knife". It should be "shot to death", not "death by gun" or "gun death".

Semantics?

Maybe.

Hear me out.

When you say "shot to death" or "stabbed to death" then that's action by a person, not an object. When you say "gun death" "death by gun" "death by knife", that is placing the responsibility of the action on the inanimate object; and there's a huge difference between the two. So "gun death"? No such thing in my mind. Same thing as Protect MN being a "Gun Safety" group when it's really a "Gun Control" group. Spinning words and webs does not change what things are. Words have power. Meaning has power. Do not misuse them.

2) As already alluded to above and as I've said many, many, many times before, I will repeat the tired, old but true mantra on here once again that guns, really any inanimate object, is not the problem, people are. No matter how much someone or a group of someones will try to control people, the reality is that they cannot. No, they cannot control every nuance of an individual's life. They cannot stop crime, murder, rape, etc, for these things existed in Nazi Germany and in North Korea, two of the most oppressive regimes in recent history. You could put an FBI agent with every single person in America, get rid of all guns, hammers, knives, etc; and someone would probably kill another person by shoving a Barbie doll down their throat.

Guards inside maximum security prisons see crime, find weapons, drugs, etc, are those things the problem? No. Once again, the people are.

Look at guns or any other object as the solution is wrong. It's a waste of time, an exercise in futility, and a diversionary tactic used by many people who are either too ignorant, stupid, or refuse to see themselves and everyone else, (people) as the problem of us, of humankind; which is also the solution. Until humankind can figure that that we are both the problem and the solution, no real solution to the problem will ever be found because we refuse to recognize either one.

If anyone disagrees with me, please enlighten me how people aren't the problem and the solution to all issues in the World? If we are not responsible? Who is? Sky Daddy? I don't think so.