What IS the Actual Distribution of Wealth?

[minnhawk]

Ollie: Now you are going to paraphrase Karl Marx to make a point? “From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need”Unbelievable. And, to answer your question, none other than Nancy Pelosi said we have to pass it in order to read it when Obamacare was crammed down the throats of Americans. Nothing was watered down in this bill -- the Republicans had no voice. The idiocy of the "nebraska payoff" typlied the tyranny of the Democratic majority in Congress when this bill was passed.

Funny that Obamacare is going to cost the middle class couples up to $4,400 per year in graduated insurance payments to offset the additional costs for the sick, lame and lazy who will overburden the current system to collapse. Yes, Obama care will tax people making over $50,000 to help pay for those who make less than $50,000 per year. We're talking trillions of dollars over the next 20 years, and who is going to pay for it? Even the rich can't sustain that type of system. No one can "cost out" Obamacare -- the numbers are too big evidently for the actuaries to attempt.

Hey, what happens when an ice cream place starts handing out free ice cream cones? The line forms, and it goes around the block, cuz its free! What happens when people are given free health care with no "skin in the game"? They will overwhelm the clinics, the medical staff, the hospitals. I watched co-workers so abuse a $5 co-pay for a doctor's office visit that it broke the Blue Cross program we had. They were going for the least sniffle in a kid or to get free bandaids. Now the copay is $45, and people stop and think before they clog the clinic. It is human nature. Sooooo, someone will need to make choices on who gets what, and that will be by age and quality of life in regard to the illness/injury. This is already in force in Great Britain. I have several friends over 65 who have been denied joint surgery as it is too expensive to give to someone their age. Use a cane, here's a mobility chair, get along get along now, you'll be fine. Insert your "heartless" rebuttal here.

[grousemaster]

I mean, I'm sure Iran is a great place to live when compared to Mississippi, but still....

hahaha

I mean seriously, he's telling us 3rd world countries offer better health care than red states? We need to see some type of evidence to back that up. Can we get one example or statistic???? Like...people live longer and have shorter hospital wait times in the Congo? Come on...can't wait to hear it.

A baby was just cured of AIDS...in Mississippi.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57572271/baby-born-with-aids-virus-appears-to-have-been-cured/

[NMRMN]

I mean, I'm sure Iran is a great place to live when compared to Mississippi, but still.... :?

hahaha

I mean seriously, he's telling us 3rd world countries offer better health care than red states? We need to see some type of evidence to back that up. Can we get one example or statistic???? Like...people live longer and have shorter hospital wait times in the Congo? Come on...can't wait to hear it.

who even cares if it is true. Doesnt give any legitimacy to his solutions.

[St. Olaf]

Shirley created HealthConnect in 2010 because — and, in part, to prove to others that — poor people in Mississippi still have health problems, even if they have Medicaid or health insurance, even if there are clinics in their communities, even if they get home health services. They don’t get better, and the diseases born of poverty and obesity are not prevented; thousands of people frequent emergency rooms for illnesses that could have been tackled by primary care.

Same New York Times article as above.

[grousemaster]

Shirley created HealthConnect in 2010 because — and, in part, to prove to others that — poor people in Mississippi still have health problems, even if they have Medicaid or health insurance, even if there are clinics in their communities, even if they get home health services. They don’t get better, and the diseases born of poverty and obesity are not prevented; thousands of people frequent emergency rooms for illnesses that could have been tackled by primary care.

Same New York Times article as above.

Which shows us that 3rd world countries usually offer better health care than red states?

Are you ever gonna back up that claim, or just move onto the "Tea Party, Fox News, Rich people" lines like usual?

[NMRMN]

who votes that St. Olaf go live in Iran for a year? Hes retired... Go take a vaca in Iran!

Come back and report on healthcare. And religious freedom. And political freedom. And economic freedom. and the legal system.

[grousemaster]

who votes that St. Olaf go live in Iran for a year? Hes retired... Go take a vaca in Iran!

Come back and report on healthcare. And religious freedom. And political freedom. And economic freedom. and the legal system.

Freedom is secondary to the needs of the masses, comrade.

[St. Olaf]

Since then, Shirley has observed up close what so many Mississippians point out: millions of dollars pour into the state every year — both public and private funds — but the lives of Mississippians do not improve. “I’ve been coming here for 40 years,” he told me recently, referring to the Mississippi Delta, “and nothing has changed.”

From the same New York Times article linked earlier.

[grousemaster]

Since then, Shirley has observed up close what so many Mississippians point out: millions of dollars pour into the state every year — both public and private funds — but the lives of Mississippians do not improve. “I’ve been coming here for 40 years,” he told me recently, referring to the Mississippi Delta, “and nothing has changed.”

From the same New York Times article linked earlier.

and your evidence of 3rd world countries usually having better health care service than red states? Do you even know what "3rd world" means? Iran is not a 3rd world country, so you're one example (that is questionable at best) is not valid.

[St. Olaf]

http://measureofamerica.org/mississippi/

A Portrait of Mississippi

LAUNCHED JANUARY 26, 2009

A Portrait of Mississippi: Mississippi Human Development Report 2009
Mississippi ranks last among U.S. states on the American Human Development Index. But some groups in the state enjoy well-being levels similar to those in top-ranked Connecticut, while others experience levels of human development of the average American nearly a half century ago.

This is the sad truth.

[grousemaster]

http://measureofamerica.org/mississippi/

A Portrait of Mississippi

LAUNCHED JANUARY 26, 2009

A Portrait of Mississippi: Mississippi Human Development Report 2009
Mississippi ranks last among U.S. states on the American Human Development Index. But some groups in the state enjoy well-being levels similar to those in top-ranked Connecticut, while others experience levels of human development of the average American nearly a half century ago.

This is the sad truth.

and....that makes it worse than 3rd world countries in what way?

[St. Olaf]

Mississippi tops yet another list.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/states- ... age-856854

These are the 10 states dying for health coverage.

1. Mississippi

• Excess deaths from a lack of insurance (per 100,000): 15.82

• Percent of population uninsured: 18.2 percent (ninth highest)

• Percent living below the poverty line: 22.4 percent (tied for the highest)

• Life expectancy at birth: 74.81 years (The lowest)

Many residents of Mississippi cannot afford insurance. The state has the lowest median income in the nation and the highest percentage of residents living below the poverty line. As a result, Mississippi has the second-lowest percentage of residents with private health insurance coverage, at 56.49 percent. Exacerbating the problem, residents are especially unhealthy. Among all states, Mississippi has the second-highest obesity rate, the second-highest percentage of adults with diabetes and the fifth-highest percentage of adult smokers in the nation. Probably on account of both high uninsurance rates and poor personal health, Mississippi is the only state where life expectancy was below 75 years at birth in 2010. Mississippi’s excess death rate was the highest among all states and twice that of 28 states in 2010.

[grousemaster]

Mississippi tops yet another list.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/states- ... age-856854

These are the 10 states dying for health coverage.

1. Mississippi

• Excess deaths from a lack of insurance (per 100,000): 15.82

• Percent of population uninsured: 18.2 percent (ninth highest)

• Percent living below the poverty line: 22.4 percent (tied for the highest)

• Life expectancy at birth: 74.81 years (The lowest)

Many residents of Mississippi cannot afford insurance. The state has the lowest median income in the nation and the highest percentage of residents living below the poverty line. As a result, Mississippi has the second-lowest percentage of residents with private health insurance coverage, at 56.49 percent. Exacerbating the problem, residents are especially unhealthy. Among all states, Mississippi has the second-highest obesity rate, the second-highest percentage of adults with diabetes and the fifth-highest percentage of adult smokers in the nation. Probably on account of both high uninsurance rates and poor personal health, Mississippi is the only state where life expectancy was below 75 years at birth in 2010. Mississippi’s excess death rate was the highest among all states and twice that of 28 states in 2010.

I'm not arguing where MS stands compared to other states. I want to know which 3rd world countries have better health care than "much of the U.S." as you stated, did you misread my question? You stated much of the 3rd world has better health care than "much of the U.S" even. Examples?

[301spartan]

Get rid of this Rachel Maddow wanna be.

[LePetomane]

who votes that St. Olaf go live in Iran for a year? Hes retired... Go take a vaca in Iran!

Come back and report on healthcare. And religious freedom. And political freedom. And economic freedom. and the legal system.

Who is organizing this and where do I donate?