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Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby XDM45 on Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:56 am

This is an almost hour long video, but he makes some pretty valid points about why he thinks, in his opinion, that gun confiscation isn't probability. Is it possible? Yes, I think it is, but I also think that while it's possible, it's not probable since when King George tried it, we fought back, so look at history for future answers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SpBThS ... w&index=11
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby damian_mb on Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:39 am

It's going to be a silent grab. :|
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby Heffay on Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:44 am

damian_mb wrote:It's going to be a silent grab. :|


No, it won't.
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby XDM45 on Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:51 am

Heffay wrote:
damian_mb wrote:It's going to be a silent grab. :|


No, it won't.


Agreed. It won't be a silent grab at all. After all, suppressors are illegal in MN and guns aren't very quiet even with them on when fired.
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby redaudi on Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:13 am

Holy cow, for once I completely agree with a consecutive heffay - xdm set of posts! :lol:
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby Heffay on Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:28 am

Nobody is going to be grabbing anyone's guns.
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby Uffdaphil on Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:56 am

Heffay wrote:Nobody is going to be grabbing anyone's guns.


I'll agree that nobody is going to be grabbing everyone's guns. But it won't be for lack of trying. Hopefully any unconstitutional confiscation laws passed will be at lower levels of government and reversed by the judiciary.

God help us if the feds ever try a quick grab before all appeals are exhausted. Or even if a stacked Supreme Court okayed it. Obeying the higher law is a bloody business.
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Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby Evad on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:30 am

XDM45 wrote:
Heffay wrote:
damian_mb wrote:It's going to be a silent grab. :|


No, it won't.


Agreed. It won't be a silent grab at all. After all, suppressors are illegal in MN and guns aren't very quiet even with them on when fired.


Once the item they attach to becomes illegal...why not use a suppressor?
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby darkwolf45 on Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:14 pm

Lets say that a gun confiscation bill did somehow pass. I seriously doubt the feds would kick in the door and you would have a heroic last stand against tyranny. Im guessing they would gather intel, find out where you work, when, when you are home, when not. If they cant find an easy opening to get in uncontested, they will make one. Faked call from the hospital about a loved one, wife taken downtown, come pick her up, IRS appointment to go over your taxes fro 4 years ago... You get the idea.

They will go in, little to no resistance and take them. They will have ultrasonic tech to scan within walls, they will confiscate your cars. Then, they will most likely charge you at work, at the gym, etc and take you in for felony posession. The few hold outs who manage to avoid these traps will either hide them so well that they are useless, or they will finally get their heroic last stand but it will be a slaughter because the cops are not going to go in unprepared or let themselves be outnumbered. The news will report these few as drug dealers or someone plotting a terrorist action so people wont even know what really happened.
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby DoxaPar on Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:22 pm

darkwolf45 wrote:Lets say that a gun confiscation bill did somehow pass. I seriously doubt the feds would kick in the door and you would have a heroic last stand against tyranny. Im guessing they would gather intel, find out where you work, when, when you are home, when not. If they cant find an easy opening to get in uncontested, they will make one. Faked call from the hospital about a loved one, wife taken downtown, come pick her up, IRS appointment to go over your taxes fro 4 years ago... You get the idea.

They will go in, little to no resistance and take them. They will have ultrasonic tech to scan within walls, they will confiscate your cars. Then, they will most likely charge you at work, at the gym, etc and take you in for felony posession. The few hold outs who manage to avoid these traps will either hide them so well that they are useless, or they will finally get their heroic last stand but it will be a slaughter because the cops are not going to go in unprepared or let themselves be outnumbered. The news will report these few as drug dealers or someone plotting a terrorist action so people wont even know what really happened.


Hehe. If it was gonna happen it'd be like this. But.. it isn't gonna happen.
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby Heffay on Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:22 pm

darkwolf45 wrote:Lets say that a gun confiscation bill did somehow pass. I seriously doubt the feds would kick in the door and you would have a heroic last stand against tyranny. Im guessing they would gather intel, find out where you work, when, when you are home, when not. If they cant find an easy opening to get in uncontested, they will make one. Faked call from the hospital about a loved one, wife taken downtown, come pick her up, IRS appointment to go over your taxes fro 4 years ago... You get the idea.

They will go in, little to no resistance and take them. They will have ultrasonic tech to scan within walls, they will confiscate your cars. Then, they will most likely charge you at work, at the gym, etc and take you in for felony posession. The few hold outs who manage to avoid these traps will either hide them so well that they are useless, or they will finally get their heroic last stand but it will be a slaughter because the cops are not going to go in unprepared or let themselves be outnumbered. The news will report these few as drug dealers or someone plotting a terrorist action so people wont even know what really happened.


Repeat 90 million times?

How long do you think it will take to do that?
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby DoxaPar on Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:25 pm

Heffay, it wouldn't really be 90 million times. Most of the folks will already have volunteered theirs to the local gun drop box and got a food voucher in return. Only those people who had been using the guns to shoot down other people for additional food and water would really need to have their doors broken down.
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby Heffay on Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:27 pm

DoxaPar wrote:Heffay, it wouldn't really be 90 million times. Most of the folks will already have volunteered theirs to the local gun drop box and got a food voucher in return. Only those people who had been using the guns to shoot down other people for additional food and water would really need to have their doors broken down.


Yeah... still not going to happen.
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby DoxaPar on Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:29 pm

Heffay wrote:
DoxaPar wrote:Heffay, it wouldn't really be 90 million times. Most of the folks will already have volunteered theirs to the local gun drop box and got a food voucher in return. Only those people who had been using the guns to shoot down other people for additional food and water would really need to have their doors broken down.


Yeah... still not going to happen.


I think I was too subtle. That's kinda what I was saying. :-P
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Re: Gun Confiscation and the Assault Weapons Ban neither are fea

Postby XDM45 on Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:30 pm

darkwolf45 wrote:Lets say that a gun confiscation bill did somehow pass. I seriously doubt the feds would kick in the door and you would have a heroic last stand against tyranny. Im guessing they would gather intel, find out where you work, when, when you are home, when not. If they cant find an easy opening to get in uncontested, they will make one. Faked call from the hospital about a loved one, wife taken downtown, come pick her up, IRS appointment to go over your taxes fro 4 years ago... You get the idea.

They will go in, little to no resistance and take them. They will have ultrasonic tech to scan within walls, they will confiscate your cars. Then, they will most likely charge you at work, at the gym, etc and take you in for felony posession. The few hold outs who manage to avoid these traps will either hide them so well that they are useless, or they will finally get their heroic last stand but it will be a slaughter because the cops are not going to go in unprepared or let themselves be outnumbered. The news will report these few as drug dealers or someone plotting a terrorist action so people wont even know what really happened.


The information would get out via YouTube, SMS, etc. Anonymous would insure it gets out to the masses and when the truth was revealed, we may be WROL in that case.
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