Paymar wants to reintroduce ban on private sales

[Nalez]

FYI,
As you all are making fools of yourselves; an amended version of HF285 was heard this morning:

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/comm/docs/H0285DE6.pdf

Sec. 7. [624.7133] GUN SHOWS; TRANSFERS OF PISTOLS AND
6.22 SEMIAUTOMATIC MILITARY-STYLE ASSAULT WEAPONS.
6.23 Subdivision 1. Definitions. For the purposes of this section, "gun show" means the
6.24 entire premises open to the public for an event or function, that is sponsored and has the
6.25 primary purpose of facilitating the purchase, sale, or offer for sale, of firearms at which 25
6.26 or more firearms are offered for transfer, and ten or more persons are offering one or more
6.27 firearms for transfer. The "entire premises" includes, but is not limited to, parking areas
6.28 and areas open to the public that are used by attendees during the event or function.
6.29 Subd. 2. Transfers; proof of eligibility required. (a) No person shall transfer a
6.30 pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon at a gun show unless the transferor
6.31 or the transferee is a federally licensed firearms dealer except as provided in this section.
6.32 (b) When two parties, neither of whom is a federally licensed firearms dealer,
6.33 desire to transfer a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon at a gun
6.34 show, the transferee must present the transferor a valid permit to purchase issued under
Sec. 7.
7.1 section 624.7131 or a valid permit to carry a pistol issued under section 624.714 prior to
7.2 completing the transfer.
7.3 Subd. 3. Exclusion. This section does not apply to transfers of antique firearms as
7.4 defined in section 624.712, subdivision 3.
7.5 EFFECTIVE DATE. This section is effective August 1, 2013."

[infidel]

Some of the posters here are apparently functioning at a junior high school level.

I don't see how the pictures posted above help our cause.

No it is just childish and contributes to a poor representation of gun enthusiasts, IMHO.

When members of our group act to hurt us as a group, I don't think we should be working with them anymore. Police our own. Becoming our caricature isn't helping us out.

Get off my side if you will excuse the actions of those who do not respect the constitution.

Two can play that game. I bet you three voted Dem all the way down the ticket. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

[darkwolf45]

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

Unlikely

[Heffay]

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

We should take a vote on the forum. Who does a better job at making gun owners look good around here: me or you.

[infidel]

Darkwolf, maybe you are excusing the actions of those who do understand what "shall not be infringed" means.

Oh no! This thread makes us look bad!

B.S. There are those who wish to erode your constitutional rights, and there are those who support them. Just callin it like I see it. Those who are anti 2nd amendment are not on my side. Go police your own at Huff-po.

[darkwolf45]

Darkwolf, maybe you are excusing the actions of those who do understand what "shall not be infringed" means.

Oh no! This thread makes us look bad!

B.S. There are those who wish to erode your constitutional rights, and there are those who support them. Just callin it like I see it. Those who are anti 2nd amendment are not on my side. Go police your own at Huff-po.

Not agreeing with you 100% on everything doesn't make someone anti 2nd amendment. Atacking others for it does alienate your allies though

[Heffay]

Not agreeing with you 100% on everything doesn't make someone anti 2nd amendment. t does alienate your allies though

This. Times infinity, and beyond.

[infidel]

Darkwolf, maybe you are excusing the actions of those who do understand what "shall not be infringed" means.

Oh no! This thread makes us look bad!

B.S. There are those who wish to erode your constitutional rights, and there are those who support them. Just callin it like I see it. Those who are anti 2nd amendment are not on my side. Go police your own at Huff-po.

Not agreeing with you 100% on everything doesn't make someone anti 2nd amendment. t does alienate your allies though

We don't have to agree. Maybe I missed the picture that was so offensive to Di-Fi supporters, and why it is so offensive.

[infidel]

Heffay, not interested in your looks or popularity contest.

What exactly in this thread makes "us" look bad? Is it the support of your constitutional rights, or is it the support of those who would chip away at those rights?

[darkwolf45]

Heffay, not interested in your looks or popularity contest.

What exactly in this thread makes "us" look bad? Is it the support of your constitutional rights, or is it the support of those who would chip away at those rights?

The part where we argue with each other over anything and everything no matter how petty

[PaperPuncher]

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I dont have the energy to even try and comprehend why this pattern continues to loop...and so, with that, have a nice evening.

[Spartan]

I was there today again..... along several others from Post 435. Paymar is playing very dirty and I hear this is his last hooray.

Per Tony Cornish... nothing ... not an inch is acceptable..... and yes Cornish is sure the dems will add all sorts of amendments.... where hopefully hf 285 will die on the floor and the senate version will choke on its own bile.

[Zatoichi]

Owning Gov, house & Senate .. they know this is their best shot for a long time.

I wouldn't expect less from them, its who they are.

If this fails, I think Minnesota is safe for awhile. Unless the Feds pass something.

[Duff-Man]

Heffay, not interested in your looks or popularity contest.

What exactly in this thread makes "us" look bad? Is it the support of your constitutional rights, or is it the support of those who would chip away at those rights?

The part where we argue with each other over anything and everything no matter how petty

Holy crap people on the internets are arguing about something.....

That explains the ammo shortage, the world is ending.......

[optimusglen]

FYI,
As you all are making fools of yourselves; an amended version of HF285 was heard this morning:

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/comm/docs/H0285DE6.pdf

Sec. 7. [624.7133] GUN SHOWS; TRANSFERS OF PISTOLS AND
6.22 SEMIAUTOMATIC MILITARY-STYLE ASSAULT WEAPONS.
6.23 Subdivision 1. Definitions. For the purposes of this section, "gun show" means the
6.24 entire premises open to the public for an event or function, that is sponsored and has the
6.25 primary purpose of facilitating the purchase, sale, or offer for sale, of firearms at which 25
6.26 or more firearms are offered for transfer, and ten or more persons are offering one or more
6.27 firearms for transfer. The "entire premises" includes, but is not limited to, parking areas
6.28 and areas open to the public that are used by attendees during the event or function.
6.29 Subd. 2. Transfers; proof of eligibility required. (a) No person shall transfer a
6.30 pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon at a gun show unless the transferor
6.31 or the transferee is a federally licensed firearms dealer except as provided in this section.
6.32 (b) When two parties, neither of whom is a federally licensed firearms dealer,
6.33 desire to transfer a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon at a gun
6.34 show, the transferee must present the transferor a valid permit to purchase issued under
Sec. 7.
7.1 section 624.7131 or a valid permit to carry a pistol issued under section 624.714 prior to
7.2 completing the transfer.
7.3 Subd. 3. Exclusion. This section does not apply to transfers of antique firearms as
7.4 defined in section 624.712, subdivision 3.
7.5 EFFECTIVE DATE. This section is effective August 1, 2013."

So correct me if I'm wrong. I read that as if you want to buy a firearm from a private party, literally on the property of a gun show, you just need to show a PTP or PTC.

Is that different than what most of us do already?