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Re: Reminder from the founders

Postby Mn01r6 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:23 pm

Might want to google some of those quotes to verify their truthfulness (or lack thereof).

Nothing discredits your argument more swiftly than an appeal to authority that is fabricated.
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Re: Reminder from the founders

Postby Stylin750 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:38 am

you forgot my favorite one. lol. "give me liberty or give me death."
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Re: Reminder from the founders

Postby darkwolf45 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:45 am

Mn01r6 wrote:Might want to google some of those quotes to verify their truthfulness (or lack thereof).

Nothing discredits your argument more swiftly than an appeal to authority that is fabricated.


Not necessarly. There is a story out there claiming to be about Daniel Boone speaking on the government giving "that which isn't yours to give." Completely debunked, but still a great story with a valuable message.
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Reminder from the founders

Postby Erud on Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:48 am

Mn01r6 wrote:Might want to google some of those quotes to verify their truthfulness (or lack thereof).

Nothing discredits your argument more swiftly than an appeal to authority that is fabricated.


Which are you disputing?
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Re: Reminder from the founders

Postby darkwolf45 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:03 am

Erud wrote:
Mn01r6 wrote:Might want to google some of those quotes to verify their truthfulness (or lack thereof).

Nothing discredits your argument more swiftly than an appeal to authority that is fabricated.


Which are you disputing?


Which was my next thought. If you know something which you think others should know, why not share it rather than expect others to fumble in the dark in an attempt to find it themselves?
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Re: Reminder from the founders

Postby TTS on Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:12 am

I love a good pro2A quote as much as the next guy but some of those are misquotes or made up...

I don't have the time to look each one up, but here is a explanation of the first quote.

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-611292.html
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Re: Reminder from the founders

Postby Mn01r6 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:58 am

...And then the second quote is also not true: http://www.mountvernon.org/educational- ... quotations
This quote is partially accurate as the beginning section is taken from Washington's First Annual Message to Congress on the State of the Union. However, the quote is then manipulated into a differing context and the remaining text is innacurate. Here is the actual text from Washington's speech:

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies."


We're not off to a good start, are we?
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Re: Reminder from the founders

Postby Mn01r6 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:05 am

...and then the 4th quote:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Widely attributed to Franklin on the Internet, sometimes without the second sentence. It is not found in any of his known writings, and the word "lunch" is not known to have appeared anywhere in English literature until the 1820s, decades after his death. The phrasing itself has a very modern tone and the second sentence especially might not even be as old as the internet. Some of these observations are made in response to a query at Google Answers.[8]
The earliest known similar statements are:


I would go on, but I am sure you know how to use Google yourself.
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Re: Deleted

Postby MasonK on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:49 am

xd ED wrote:I never said half the crap people said I did.


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Re: Deleted

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Put 'em back up -- would be good to analyze them!
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Re: Deleted

Postby cgrant26 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:07 pm

""Never believe everything you see on the internet"
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