Coburn BG Check Proposal

[Mn01r6]

As the buyer, you complete a NICS on yourself, print out a certificate, and give it to the seller. The seller can then enter the validation code from the certificate into NICS and verify your ID.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... s/2088479/

It relies on voluntary compliance (at this point).

[Texastransplant]

Nope.

[Heffay]

As the buyer, you complete a NICS on yourself, print out a certificate, and give it to the seller. The seller can then enter the validation code from the certificate into NICS and verify your ID.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... s/2088479/

It relies on voluntary compliance (at this point).

I like it.

[The Lance]

As common sense as some of the proposed stuff is. It's gonna get amended to something way worse

I don't agree with all gun owners on not wanting more.

I think we need to punish the bad guys first. But I don't think that will make anymore of a difference then checking to see a ptp/ptc.

[Heffay]

But I don't think that will make anymore of a difference then checking to see a ptp/ptc.

It gives someone who doesn't have a PTC/PTP a way to buy a gun, assuming they can pass a NICS check.

[The Lance]

Well they can get a ptp on their own.. It's unenforceable and a waste of public resources.

Besides it's not what the anti gunners want. It won't get anywhere

[JeffB]

But I don't think that will make anymore of a difference then checking to see a ptp/ptc.

Different scenario completely but along similar lines with what you wrote, now and locally - what if one of us from WI want to private party buy from one of you in MN? There is no PTP or PTC over here obviously. What would a MN person on this forum want as paperwork to feel better about selling to someone on this side of the state border in WI? We bring along a copy of a recent approved background check for you to look at? Someone in MN recently had a long gun I was interested in but I'm not sure on the "accepted protocol" so I didn't even bother to ask about the seller.

[The Lance]

The proposed law makes no changes to whether or not interstate sales is allowed...

If you want a firearm and both aren't in the same state as a legal resident then it's supposed to go through an ffl..

However that's unenforceable to and is only illegal if either party finds it illegal and want to do things right.

Let's figure out a way to change that along with a good and free instant nics system

Is it gonna happen? Of course not there's too much hypocrisy going on to change anything.


All the gun hating liberals want more and will not vote for something that actually makes sense no matter how much sense it makes. They'll stick with party lines and not get anywhere.

And the right wing people don't want either because it's another set of laws they don't believe should exist

[BemidjiDweller]

But I don't think that will make anymore of a difference then checking to see a ptp/ptc.

Different scenario completely but along similar lines with what you wrote, now and locally - what if one of us from WI want to private party buy from one of you in MN? There is no PTP or PTC over here obviously. What would a MN person on this forum want as paperwork to feel better about selling to someone on this side of the state border in WI? We bring along a copy of a recent approved background check for you to look at? Someone in MN recently had a long gun I was interested in but I'm not sure on the "accepted protocol" so I didn't even bother to ask about the seller.

A FFL transfer in WI, anything else is a felony.

[Li'l Beaver]

NO WAY JOSE! No infringement of the 2nd Amendment is the only thing I will support.

[Heffay]

NO WAY JOSE! No infringement of the 2nd Amendment is the only thing I will support.

How is this an "infringement"?

[Holland&Holland]

NO WAY JOSE! No infringement of the 2nd Amendment is the only thing I will support.

How is this an "infringement"?

How is it not infringement? PTC, PTP, NFA and NICs are all infringements. If it was not infringed we would be able to buy what ever the free market would support.

[Heffay]

NO WAY JOSE! No infringement of the 2nd Amendment is the only thing I will support.

How is this an "infringement"?

How is it not infringement? PTC, PTP, NFA and NICs are all infringements. If it was not infringed we would be able to buy what ever the free market would support.

Because it's VOLUNTARY?

[Holland&Holland]

Because it's VOLUNTARY?

For now

[MJY65]

NO WAY JOSE! No infringement of the 2nd Amendment is the only thing I will support.

How is this an "infringement"?

How is it not infringement? PTC, PTP, NFA and NICs are all infringements. If it was not infringed we would be able to buy what ever the free market would support.

I agree. Whether we like it or not, the second amendment is already significantly infringed. Each generation accepts the situation they live in as the baseline and further regulation is regarded as infringement. Unfortunately, this incremental erosion has been going on for decades. I'm concerned that our children will think of registration as normal and the next generation will accept confiscation. I won't be here to see it, but I still hate to think of it.