Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby TTS on Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:02 am

MaryB wrote:What gets me is I can get a college degree totally online so I should at least be able to do the classroom portion of the CC class online and then pay a smaller fee for the shooting part.


You can and many other instructors offer that.
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby infidel on Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:17 am

MaryB wrote:What gets me is I can get a college degree totally online so I should at least be able to do the classroom portion of the CC class online and then pay a smaller fee for the shooting part.


There are instructors here that offer online training. You will not get personal attention and answers to direct questions like you would in a seated class though.

The idea that one needs to be "certified" by a government entity or approved certification courses to pull a trigger and defend themselves is the problem. One can always seek additional training, no "training" or "certification" should be required to exercise a right.
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby Thunder71 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:04 am

infidel wrote:There are instructors here that offer online training. You will not get personal attention and answers to direct questions like you would in a seated class though.

Not necessarily true, one instructor that I know who does online courses does it through a web conference so he is there live to answer your questions just like if you attended the class in person.
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby Evad on Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:42 am

Thunder71 wrote:
infidel wrote:There are instructors here that offer online training. You will not get personal attention and answers to direct questions like you would in a seated class though.

Not necessarily true, one instructor that I know who does online courses does it through a web conference so he is there live to answer your questions just like if you attended the class in person.


Or instructors who answer anything over email...and quickly. Mine is in this thread, but I don't know if I am allowed to call him out in a positive light. I was very happy with the material and ability to get feedback.
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby MaryB on Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:39 pm

None out in the SW corner of the state that I have been able to find.
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby farmerj on Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:40 am

MaryB wrote:None out in the SW corner of the state that I have been able to find.



Since the subtle isn't working for you.....


I have always done it where if YOU take the effort to set up a class with a range time, I will come to your location and teach a class. Doesn't matter really WHERE in the state you live.

Since YOU are arranging the class, you get $10 off per student towards the cost of your class. I limit my classes to 8-10 students. I might do more, but then range times are going to be a lot longer. Cost is $60 per student otherwise. As to the shooting, you will still have the cost of one box of ammunition. If you care to share that box and the cost associated with it even more. Since you won't be taking this likely to an actual gun range, you save that fee as well. So now, you are down to, "what is the county actually charging you?" for your cost to get a permit to carry.

how much more of a deal do you want on that?

As to the OP....

Meeker county just lowered their cost from $100 to $40 for the application fee. They could not justify adding to the already $15,000+ cash account for the permit to carry balance that they had collected since it began. The sheriff claimed they did it to create a pool for challenges to their denials.
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby Erud on Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:11 am

Is there anyone on this board who ISN'T a MN PTC instructor?
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby farmerj on Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:15 am

Not many......
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby Thunder71 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:30 am

Erud wrote:Is there anyone on this board who ISN'T a MN PTC instructor?

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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby Erud on Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:34 am

Thunder71 wrote:
Erud wrote:Is there anyone on this board who ISN'T a MN PTC instructor?

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Well, I guess that makes 2 of us then.
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby xd ED on Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:38 am

Erud wrote:
Thunder71 wrote:
Erud wrote:Is there anyone on this board who ISN'T a MN PTC instructor?

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Well, I guess that makes 2 of us then.


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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby ex-LT on Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:34 am

Erud wrote:Is there anyone on this board who ISN'T a MN PTC instructor?

xd ED wrote:
Erud wrote:
Thunder71 wrote:Image


Well, I guess that makes 2 of us then.


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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby RobD on Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:56 pm

It costs $100 because the majority of Sheriffs are robbing from their county residents. They are required by law to charge "Actual costs" not to exceed $100.

Meeker County is a shining example of the right person in office. $40 for new application, $35 for renewal.

It's easy for Sheriffs to shift funds around. Some add money to a legal defense fund, some buy new printers, copiers, and office furniture for the whole office and call them "permit related" expenses.
Some counties don't even try to hide it. Dakota County banked almost $100k last year even ever paying almost 3 full time jobs to process about 10 permits a day.

A better move would be to make the fees lower by statute. There's plenty of evidence from our neighbors that can do it for $30-50.

The best way would be to promote pro-rights sheriffs getting into office.
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby farmerj on Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:01 pm

That's funny right there.....in the most perverted way....

RobD wrote:Meeker County is a shining example of the right person in office. $40 for new application, $35 for renewal.


http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/17 ... on-assault

The FOX 9 Investigators obtained records last fall showing Benjamin had been in a domestic situation with a gun. The documents detailed how his father, Meeker County Sheriff Jeff Norlin withheld his son's name from dispatch radio communications.

Read more: Police Charge Meeker County Sheriffs Son with DWI, Possession, A - KMSP-TV http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/17 ... z2jugKjszK


http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/17 ... ounty-line

The FBI had difficulty with its investigation because many people were too afraid to talk for fear of retribution, but an FBI agent wrote that the activities of the Meeker County Sheriff's Department reflected a cavalier disregard for the people of Meeker County.

Read more: Investigators: Meeker County Line - KMSP-TV http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/17 ... z2jugib0pA
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Re: Permit Cost - Why The Huge Difference?

Postby RobD on Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:09 pm

farmerj wrote:That's funny right there.....in the most perverted way....


Speaking purely on taking action on overcharging fees, personal vendettas aside.
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