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Re: The long-term prospects for firearms freedom?

Postby 2in2out on Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:28 pm

Is this thread supposed to bait the anti's into revealing themselves?

This isn't about tomorrow for Bloomberg, this is about the next 20 years. The idea that we can beat them this year or next year is naive. We need to commit to kicking their a** now and constantly for the next 20 years. That's what the PAC is all about, in my opinion.
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Re: The long-term prospects for firearms freedom?

Postby photogpat on Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:21 pm

2in2out wrote:Is this thread supposed to bait the anti's into revealing themselves?

This isn't about tomorrow for Bloomberg, this is about the next 20 years. The idea that we can beat them this year or next year is naive. We need to commit to kicking their a** now and constantly for the next 20 years. That's what the PAC is all about, in my opinion.


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Re: The long-term prospects for firearms freedom?

Postby Deputyhiro on Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:31 pm

So where is the tipping point? When is enough enough? We all say that we would never give up our guns. Or that our government will never take them all away. "It could never happen, your paranoid".... That's what the Jews said. Where do you draw the line? Decide that it is to the point that it is time to fight back. And I mean fight.
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Re: The long-term prospects for firearms freedom?

Postby Lumpy on Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:47 pm

A funny but thought-provoking saying I read: "If it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig up your guns".
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Re: The long-term prospects for firearms freedom?

Postby photogpat on Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:59 pm

Lumpy wrote:A funny but thought-provoking saying I read: "If it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig up your guns".


Although:

"If you get mad as hell and just can't take it anymore, you grab your rifle and go running out into the street. If no one else is out there, its not time yet."
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Re: The long-term prospects for firearms freedom?

Postby shooter115 on Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:35 pm

photogpat wrote:
Lumpy wrote:A funny but thought-provoking saying I read: "If it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig up your guns".


Although:

"If you get mad as hell and just can't take it anymore, you grab your rifle and go running out into the street. If no one else is out there, its not time yet."

Both true, but the top one works better when you live out in the country ;)
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Re: The long-term prospects for firearms freedom?

Postby Jeff Bergquist on Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:01 am

Re: the long term prospects of gun freedom, I think there are two conflicting dynamics in play, the first being the increasing urbanization of the population, and their increasing tendency to be government dependent and therefore vote Democrat/Liberal/Socialist, and the other being the perceived deterioration of the social contract, i.e. the belief that those same urban centers are losing traditional social values and becoming anarchistic hellholes, prompting many people to value their ability to defend themselves.

I suspect the first dynamic has the edge, that in the long term our rights will get voted away, but hope I'm wrong, even at the cost of enduring the violence problems we currently face. I would personally rather live free in an anarchistic country than peacefully in a fully regulated/controlled socialist utopia.
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Re: The long-term prospects for firearms freedom?

Postby Texastransplant on Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:01 pm

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Re: The long-term prospects for firearms freedom?

Postby brent fox on Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:09 pm

Tuesday is Caucus night; time for both ACTION and WORDS!
Let's be the majority of the few that show up.

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