Julianne Ortman write in campaign

[JJ]

Q: The Senate voted down expanding background checks on gun purchases. Would you support that?
A: I'm a strong believer in the Second Amendment, and the right to bear arms. It does concern me that someone that's not allowed to buy a gun at Wal-Mart because they didn't pass a background check is allowed to go and purchase one at a gun show. I would be open to looking at expanding background checks.
Source: Minneapolis Post on 2014 Minnesota Senate race , Jul 15, 2013

So what do you propose? Because if McFadden is'nt the one option, we're stuck with Franken as the other?

http://donthategcdaz.wordpress.com/al-f ... n-control/

"In his first televised speech after bullying his way into the Senate, Al Franken said that he will vote against any gun control measures and use his influence to remove all gun laws."

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-con ... ponsors?q={%22cosponsor-state%22%3A%22Minnesota%22}

http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-vote ... 5oCIyjJVzk

viewtopic.php?f=58&t=50653&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15#p516666

[ericinmn1970]

So what do you propose? Because if McFadden is'nt the one option, we're stuck with Franken as the other?

http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=50653&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15#p516666

It looks to me as if that thread, has reached the same general consensus as this one, we're split on how to vote and who to vote for. Also, it really doesn't answer my question. While I totally, and thoroughly, agree with you and others, who would like to see a 3rd party candidate upset the balance of power; I think the reality is, it's just not going to happen anytime soon. I've voted for 3rd party candidates (libertarians/independents) and avoided voting for D & R since I've been a voter, 26 years. But my candidates (with the exception of Jesse Ventura) simply do not win elections. I do not have any representatives in government speaking on my behalf.

So I'll rephrase the question. Who do we vote for, so as not to continue losing ground on our 2A rights, while also continuing to make headway toward breaking the two party stranglehold?

[Ghost]

So what do you propose? Because if McFadden is'nt the one option, we're stuck with Franken as the other?

http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=50653&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15#p516666

It looks to me as if that thread, has reached the same general consensus as this one, we're split on how to vote and who to vote for. Also, it really doesn't answer my question. While I totally, and thoroughly, agree with you and others, who would like to see a 3rd party candidate upset the balance of power. I think the reality is, it's just not going to happen anytime soon. I've voted for 3rd party candidates (libertarians/independents) and avoided voting for D & R since I've been a voter, 26 years. But my candidates (with the exception of Jesse Ventura) simply do not win elections. I do not have any representatives in government speaking on my behalf.

So I'll rephrase the question. Who do we vote for, so as not to continue losing ground on our 2A rights, while also continuing to make headway toward breaking the two party stranglehold?

Unfortunately there's a very good chance that if you don't vote for a D or an R you would have been better staying home and watching TV. There's also a very good chance that even if you vote for a pro gun dem that they will be anti-gun after the next Sandy Hook or at the least side with other dems when voting on judges which can be an even bigger problem since we've got some old SCJ's and an idiot for a president.

[Randygmn]

After doing some research on Mcfadden last night there is no way I can vote for him. The guy has no platform, no plans, and a horrible record of saying he is for gun restrictions. Anyone know if Julianne Ortman is going to to a write in campaign?

Really? This particular campaign may have a huge impact on the balance of the senate and the probable nomination of a Supreme Court justice before 2016. Even if its not 2016, one of those seats will be coming up soon. The senate is more important than the presidency at this point. Franken, and all democrats for that matter, have to go. Hold your nose if you must, but you have to vote Franken out.

[ericinmn1970]

Unfortunately there's a very good chance that if you don't vote for a D or and R you would have been better staying home and watching TV. There's also a very good chance that even if you vote for a pro gun dem that they will be anti-gun after the next Sandy Hook or at the least side with other dems when voting on judges which can be an even bigger problem since we've got some old SCJ's and an idiot for a president.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=50627&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15

....Keith Ellison has recently said he wishes the Democratic party would stand in opposition to the 2A. Many Democrats in the past few years have also been very anti-gun. So I think in November, Ellison's anti-2A position could serve as a sort of litmus test should more Democrats be considering taking that same anti-2A position. If he wins, then even more Democrats may start becoming openly anti-2A. And if anti-2A Democrats win more and more elections, we're in trouble, because the Republicans no longer seem to be able to win.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/06/obama- ... -gun-laws/

Obama is sure to stoke a push back from the NRA over his most recent comments. Obama claimed in an impassioned question and answer forum that “Australia got it right” and that American should be “ashamed.” According to Obama, the United States is the only country that would put up with such laws, and that Australia had gotten gun control laws right.

Keith Ellison has planted the seed and Obama is watering it to make it grow. We have two more years of Obama, who's now openly advocating for an Australian styled gun confiscation and banning. We'll start to see more Democrats (especially Franken & Klobuchar) become more comfortable holding an anti-gun stance. I think once it's lost, we're not ever getting it back without serious bloodshed and even that's not certain. So again to me, voting for any Democrat seems a vote against 2A rights, where as voting for the Republican McFadden, gives us in the pro-2A community, someone who's more likely to be our voice, if he wants to keep his job.

[gunsmith]

There are 2.5 million gun owners in this state - we are more than capable of raising enough money to make a difference in a campaign (or campaigns). If we realize that we're capable of doing such a thing
b

Interesting fact:

MN pop: about 5 million

MN gun owners: 2.5 million

So Bryan, what you're telling me is that HALF of the population, therefore, MORE THAN HALF OF THE ADULT POPULATION, owns firearms....useful fact when promoting a position.

True or False. And may I ask the source. Thanks.

[MaryB]

Ay attempt at a gun ban would result in a civil war and Obama knows that.

[ericinmn1970]

Ay attempt at a gun ban would result in a civil war and Obama knows that.

Perhaps. But this man has on numerous occasions, displayed both an utter contempt for the constitution, as well as the rights and opinions of small town midwesterners.

You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.
And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade

A statement like that doesn't come from someone who respects the rights and viewpoints of others (non-Democrat). Whats worse is the irony contained in that statement. I see the same bitterness and antipathy from liberal/progressive types directed toward anyone not like them. I see the same adherence to liberal/progressive ideology, with the same zeal as that of many devout Christians. Mr. Obama has nothing to lose by continuing to slander and alienate anyone who holds an opposing view to his. His supporters are buying into the talking point that, anyone who disagrees with him is a racist, and thus ends any discussion to be had about his policy and his leadership; this emboldens his base into taking similar more adversarial positions. Neither side should want a civil war. There's no guarantee that gun owners would retain their 2A rights at the end.

[mnshootingsports]

Unfortunately there's a very good chance that if you don't vote for a D or an R you would have been better staying home and watching TV. There's also a very good chance that even if you vote for a pro gun dem that they will be anti-gun after the next Sandy Hook or at the least side with other dems when voting on judges which can be an even bigger problem since we've got some old SCJ's and an idiot for a president.

Very good observation. Case in point, Kirsten Gillebrand, Democrat US Senator from NY. As a US Representative, she was rated "A" by the NRA. When she became senator, she quickly dropped to an "F".

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NR ... 50029.html